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    Posted: 01/14/2009 at 03:13
I prefer the fastest version of the song.
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nope... written for against the grain. if you notice, the song is pretty "buried" in the track listing. it wasn't that we thought it too slow, but maybe a bit too much like eddie and the subtitles "american society".. http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=46445746


I've never liked digital boy, so its nice to hear that it isnt even bad religion song. :)


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Originally posted by tested tested wrote:

 
I'm not saying it won't be good, I'm just saying that we shouldn't assume that it will be. So I think we agree!
 
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Assuming may have been my first mistake... but I think it was a valid assumption.
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No issue intended... both bands are two separate entities. When I first heard the album King Crimson album I was blown away.

But not a lot of people have actually heard that album (I would assume) they just read about the references to that album on this page in "The Answer" section. At least I was guilty of that for a while...until my senses were turned on the The Court of The Crimson King.


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Originally posted by AnxietyDestroys AnxietyDestroys wrote:

What no love to King Crimson in a 21st Century Digital Boy topic?

Jay?

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i didn't see that raised as an issue, but there are SO many references related to that song that i assumed it was (capt.) obvious.
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What no love to King Crimson in a 21st Century Digital Boy topic?

Jay?

"Confusion will be my epitaph."
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Originally posted by Marty Marty wrote:

Talking about unreleased songs.... check out this little piece of info from The Answer:
Quote They recorded 23 songs for The Gray Race and only 15 made it to the CD. Even if Universal Cynic and The Dodo were 2 of them, there are still 6 left.
I wonder how much of this is true as I can't remember having heard anything else about it.


Jay has on many occasions stated that above statement is false.
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Originally posted by jabberwock jabberwock wrote:

Originally posted by Marty Marty wrote:

I found this blog where someone states the following:
Quote Although it appeared on Against the Grain, 21st Century (Digital Boy) didn't became a hit until it appeared on Stranger Than Fiction. It was slated to appear on Bad Religion's fourth album, No Control, but was deemed to slow of a song for the band.

I haven't heard this one before. Do you guys think there's any truth in it? Jay...?

nope... written for against the grain. if you notice, the song is pretty "buried" in the track listing. it wasn't that we thought it too slow, but maybe a bit too much like eddie and the subtitles "american society".. http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=46445746


Gees! that IS pretty similar! even the lyrics, the way the powerchords are struck. I like 21st century a lot better because this one has monotonous vocals.
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All right, thanks Jay I guess my knowlege was wrong!
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Originally posted by Marty Marty wrote:

I found this blog where someone states the following:
Quote Although it appeared on Against the Grain, 21st Century (Digital Boy) didn't became a hit until it appeared on Stranger Than Fiction. It was slated to appear on Bad Religion's fourth album, No Control, but was deemed to slow of a song for the band.

I haven't heard this one before. Do you guys think there's any truth in it? Jay...?

nope... written for against the grain. if you notice, the song is pretty "buried" in the track listing. it wasn't that we thought it too slow, but maybe a bit too much like eddie and the subtitles "american society".. http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=46445746
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Originally posted by Anti- Anti- wrote:

Well there is no way knowing if it is a good one or not, is there? But I do know that they have left great songs off records before. I'm of course talking about Who We Are and one of my all time favourite Surface of Me. So, it wouldn't suprise me too much if it turned out that New Chapter is their most incredible song ever. But like I said, there is no way to know.
 
I'll try to dig up the topic we had about New Chapter to see if there was any interesting info.
 
I'm not saying it won't be good, I'm just saying that we shouldn't assume that it will be. So I think we agree!


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Talking about unreleased songs.... check out this little piece of info from The Answer:
Quote They recorded 23 songs for The Gray Race and only 15 made it to the CD. Even if Universal Cynic and The Dodo were 2 of them, there are still 6 left.
I wonder how much of this is true as I can't remember having heard anything else about it.


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Well there is no way knowing if it is a good one or not, is there? But I do know that they have left great songs off records before. I'm of course talking about Who We Are and one of my all time favourite Surface of Me. So, it wouldn't suprise me too much if it turned out that New Chapter is their most incredible song ever. But like I said, there is no way to know.
 
I'll try to dig up the topic we had about New Chapter to see if there was any interesting info.
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Originally posted by Anti- Anti- wrote:

  
But anyways, all this makes me think of the song New Chapter that was supposed to be on NMOH. If I remember correctly, someone in the band said that they might put it on the next album or something. Well, if the next album sounds too different from NMOH then they might choose not to use it at all. Or if they use it it might sound weird. But of course they could use it as a b-side on a single.

Maybe we can pay 25 bucks for it again... Ha ha ha ... but seriously I bet that New Chapter doesn't sound as interesting as it would seem, it gets hyped because it got cut from the album, but maybe it wasn't all that good... we'll have to wait and see what if anything they do with it :) 


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I drool when I imagine that... No Control would have been even better than it is now. And it is a fuckin great album. Maybe it would have suited well right after the title song. Who knows...
 
But anyways, all this makes me think of the song New Chapter that was supposed to be on NMOH. If I remember correctly, someone in the band said that they might put it on the next album or something. Well, if the next album sounds too different from NMOH then they might choose not to use it at all. Or if they use it it might sound weird. But of course they could use it as a b-side on a single.
 
Uff... I know that was kinda off-topic, but I just wanted to say that. Sorry...
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I like ATG version of Digital Boy.

Anyway ever listen to 21st Century Schizoid Man?... that song and album are amazing..
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Originally posted by Brmarlin Brmarlin wrote:

Personally, I'd put it right after Sanity - I think the outro to that right next to the intro of Digital Boy could be interesting. 
Nah, I prefer how the beat goes into Henchman too much to fuck that up.
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Yep, that's where I'd put it too.

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Personally, I'd put it right after Sanity - I think the outro to that right next to the intro of Digital Boy could be interesting. 
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