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Heh. I just run into the middle of the pit, start pogoing, realize that I'm in over my head, and panic and try to escape.

It's lots of fun.
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pits/pogoing was invented with violence in mind...
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Especially that ninja stuff reminds me of wannabe alpha male behavior that one can also see with monkeys....
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we have sooooooo evolved past that. like oh my god.
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Originally posted by cleverscreename cleverscreename wrote:

pits/pogoing was invented with violence in mind...
 
Wrong. Pogo Pits consists of massive groups of people just jumping up and down where they are standing, without intended physical contact, or at least, without aggressive behavior. This is what happens at a Primus show, for example.
 
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Originally posted by boltzzman boltzzman wrote:

Your sarcasm detector seems to be broken. Relax, I'm just pushing your buttons. I Win!
 
Dude, if you're going to play the losing hypocrit, at least do it with more dignity. How you acted made you look much more like a frustrated *victim* that wants to spread shit in my court, just because you're jealous of my beautiful and joyful colorific land, while yours is all thorny and filled with cowardish weapons to satisfy your pathetic *defense* rights maniacal feeble instincts. Just because I laugh at your needs for guns, doesn't make you right to come in here and play the fool. If you were doing it well and in a just slighty fun way, maybe I'd applause for the merit, but you're still very far from that, copman.
 
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"losing hypocrit[e]"? "Spread Shit in my Court"?

Please.
 
Trust me, I'm jealous of nothing you have...especially your "joyful colorific land"
 
I'm not sure what you mean by  "copman"...nor do I really care.
 
I'm sure you're not very high on anyones list when it comes to broaching the subject of conducting onself with "dignity". I will at least answer questions that are asked of me, instead of deflecting when I know I'm wrong or can't justify my position.
 
It seems that having a serious conversation with you is futile...as is trying to inject some levity into a discussion.
 
Excuse me, I've got to go knock some kids down who are dancing in a way that I disagree with.
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I did not meant you were jealous, (But thanks for admitting that you are, by talking about it first) I meant you were pissed just cause I came out and pissed on your guns, so now you feel all victimized and have to come and try to find cobs of information I say on which you can piss in return.
 
Being high on other people's list is for aristocrats and people who have too much time to lose. I'm too busy having fun to bother about such worthless things, as I am smart enough to be happy by valorizing myself without the need of others. Too bad it's not your case.
 
As about having a serious conversation which is not futile, well how does it feel to know what you indulge in others 95% of the time you make your fingers dance on a keyboard ? And as for levity, well you don't know shit about this, cause this is what I did in the very first post I made in that gun thread, and you jumped on all fangs out as the copman that you are.
 
Maybe if you had half a brain instead of a cpu which is only collecting and propagating bland information without impact, you would have made it far enough to figure that these kids are invading the *dance* floor and prevent more people than them from having fun. They push others in order to create the space they need. So all in all, they steal the Pit Floor and don't care that a hundred people could have enjoyed themselves in the very same space if the little dozen that they are weren't thinking like a bunch of alpha male losers. You still have a long way to walk on the *Let's deform and try to pin wrongful and stupid behaviors unto the people I try to walk upon* road. I'd say keep training, but you're not worth it.
 
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First you said:
 
Originally posted by -Fatal- Apocalypse -Fatal- Apocalypse wrote:

just because you're jealous of my beautiful and joyful colorific land...
 
then you said:
 
Originally posted by -Fatal- Apocalypse -Fatal- Apocalypse wrote:

I did not meant you were jealous, (But thanks for admitting that you are, by talking about it first)
 
You obviously have no idea what you're saying.
 
As for your other nonsense...keep it coming. We can all use a good laugh.
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Haha, oh shit, right about the jealous part. Haha this is hilarious. But it is still true that the main point of this paragraph was what I explained in the second post, not the jealousy thing. And thing is, I KNEW you'd bite on it and not understand what's under the lines, and thought about elaborating more, but hey, I only reply to you when there's nothing else to waste time on here, so I'm not gonna start spending too much time defining things which it is useless for me to know you understand or agree with. You still don't know shit about what this topic is about, and guns are still for cowards. Bye bye!
 
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Edit; And seriously, just because I'm the only one who dares to do it openly, doesn't mean that not everyone laugh at your pathetic gun defending rights remarks. What do you think those who don't bother arguing on such ridiculous and wasteful things think when they see how bad you're a weapon maniac ?


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Originally posted by -Fatal- Apocalypse -Fatal- Apocalypse wrote:

I only reply to you when there's nothing else to waste time on here, so I'm not gonna start spending too much time defining things which it is useless for me to know you understand or agree with.
 
Still deflecting. What a surprise...
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Hey you're the one who asked for an example of defense without retaliation, you got more than one, but thanks for showing us how wrong you were in the first place, by stating what I did which is exactly what you asked for and said that I couldn't do. Thanks a lot!
 
*roll eyes and smile*
 
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Edit; And since you posted that while I typed the edit in the other post, go read it and waste some more time trying to deform and turn it around. It's fun!


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You seem to be more interested in the gun thread than I do. Your incessant whining isn't getting under my skin...sorry.
 
Last I checked you started this thread to talk about kids moshing. Try to stay on topic.
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I would, but you threw rocks at me in the first place (I'm speaking of THIS topic) so now don't start complaining just because a nail bomb blowed in your face.
 
Do you waste your time replying to people about things that *don't get under your skin* very often ? Man, you're ridiculous. Keep training.
 
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Originally posted by -Fatal- Apocalypse -Fatal- Apocalypse wrote:

Do you waste your time replying to people about things that *don't get under your skin* very often ? Man, you're ridiculous.
 
Sound familiar? I'm glad you finally get it. Sweet Jesus you're a slow learner.
 
Now that you finally get it, back to your topic.
 
I actually agree with you that these kids are not in the pit to just dance, and that they probably are ruining the good time of some of the people there who just want to enjoy the show. I also think that if you enter the pit of your own free will that you have to except the fact that you may get hurt.
 
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I'm the slow learner ? Who's calling Jesus sweet on a Bad Religion board ? Haha, this is hilarious.
 
But if by sounding familiar you were reffering to when I started my shit about guns and then later said that I didn't care about such shit enough to elaborate and pseudo *stand* behind my words, well at least know that I do care about guns since I call those who use them cowards. What I don't care about is justifying my thoughts and acts for people who can't think about it themselves. I develop much more when I do things on my own and try things, than when I ask questions. I just consider other people to be smart enough to do the same.
 
Woohoo, you finally say what you REALLY think about this. But now that it has added nothing to the whole topic behind it, I think you should ponder about how you first made yourself pass for someone who believed almost the opposite, as in, repeating twice that you thought I was doing what I do just because I don't like how they dance, when, if what you say now is true, you clearly knew and understood that this was not the case.
 
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Originally posted by -Fatal- Apocalypse -Fatal- Apocalypse wrote:

What I don't care about is justifying my thoughts and acts for people who can't think about it themselves.
 
Well, the point of a discussion is to be able to do just that. If you think someone doesn't understand something, then (if you care about the discussion at all) it behooves you to try and make them see your point of view. You may be unsuccessful...but at least you tried.
 
Originally posted by -Fatal- Apocalypse -Fatal- Apocalypse wrote:

Woohoo, you finally say what you REALLY think about this. But now that it has added nothing to the whole topic behind it, I think you should ponder about how you first made yourself pass for someone who believed almost the opposite, as in, repeating twice that you thought I was doing what I do just because I don't like how they dance, when, if what you say now is true, you clearly knew and understood that this was not the case.
 
The point of the exercise was to show how annoying (and counterproductive) it is when someone enters a discussion and "throws rocks", as you say, without actually contributing anything. I was obviously being quite juvenile. I'm sure you noticed the change in my normal demeanor and writing style. I chose this topic because you started it, and I knew you would respond. I don't like doing things like this but, in the interest of having productive discussions in the future, I felt it was neccessary. Hopefully you catch my drift here. Sorry for the deception.
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I don't care if people understand what I say or not, that's for them to figure. But if for some reason I feel like explaining more, it is because I care about the person I'm talking to, not for the discussion. It can also be when I am wrongfully pinned opinions by others, opinions that I do not support, which was your case here.
 
I know how annoying it is, what do you think was my precise goal when I first entered the gun thread ? But to say I contributed nothing is a lie. I might not have noticed the so called change in your normal behavior, because it was exactly the same worthless kind of questions and feeble talk direction manipulation as you did in that gun thread again.
 
I am not deceived, and it is not the first time you try and fail at doing this pathetic act against me. I do catch your drift, and let me tell you that it stinks, it stinks very very bad. Like the smell of a rotting mind as death and fear swallows the brain.
 
If you want to have productive discussions with me in the future, start to have tasty opinions, and read your signature again, cause for someone who quotes that, you sure do seem to cling to opinions and facts as being *truths* a little too much.
 
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Originally posted by -Fatal- Apocalypse -Fatal- Apocalypse wrote:

I don't care if people understand what I say or not, that's for them to figure. But if for some reason I feel like explaining more, it is because I care about the person I'm talking to, not for the discussion.
 
If you don't care what people think about your opinions, why bother posting them? What's the point?
 
Who do you care about? Who is worthy of your grand explanations? My guess is that it is people who already think like you do, though I could be wrong.
 
Originally posted by -Fatal- Apocalypse -Fatal- Apocalypse wrote:

I know how annoying it is, what do you think was my precise goal when I first entered the gun thread ? But to say I contributed nothing is a lie.
 
Well, now you know what it feels like. If your goal is to annoy people on a thread on a discussion board (and not actually discuss anything), you need to set your goals a little higher. I only did it to prove a point. Goodness knows why you did.
 
There are still plenty of questions that I asked you that have yet to be answered. So far I know that you think gun owners are cowards (mostly because of the "long distance" aspect). I know you're a vegetarian. Other than that, I know you don't like answering questions that challenge your opinions, just evading them and saying "You Fail" and "Hail".
 
Originally posted by -Fatal- Apocalypse -Fatal- Apocalypse wrote:

If you want to have productive discussions with me in the future, start to have tasty opinions
 
"tasty opinions"? Why am I seeing Spicoli from Fast Times at Ridgemont High in my head right now? What do you mean by "tasty opinions"?
 
Originally posted by -Fatal- Apocalypse -Fatal- Apocalypse wrote:

and read your signature again, cause for someone who quotes that, you sure do seem to cling to opinions and facts as being *truths* a little too much.
 
Perhaps your English is not very good, so I'll let your obvious misinterpretation of that quote slide. Last I checked, though, if someone states a fact (and I'm not talking about an opinion based on fact) they are telling the truth. Just because you don't see it...doesn't mean it's not true.
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OKAY GENTELMEN, take a breath.
in. out. in...
out.
how do you feel now? good, dont you?
bolts dude, we all know youre above all this pettiness. for someone with such cute argumentative skills, i would have thought youd have better value judgements. put your ego aside with any care you have for this feeble discussion, if you wish to save what face is left. fatal, youre beyond help, do whatever you want.
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Wrong. Pogo Pits consists of massive groups of people just jumping up and down where they are standing, without intended physical contact, or at least, without aggressive behavior. This is what happens at a Primus show, for example.


yeah, and thats great for primus, but thats not what i was talking about. pogoing was invented single handedly by sid viscous, who couldnt see at some punk shows, so hed start jumping up and down to get glimpses of the stage (which then obviously turned into moshing). from there he just started running into people who he didnt like the looks of. you can imagine in a room filled with people like him (except stupider, en masse) how well this would catch on. this was the origins of the "pit", in the mid seventies, in london.
in his defence, im pretty confident this was way before his smack stage.
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