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Jesse
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Posted: 07/02/2012 at 05:32 |
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I completely understand your confusion Alice! I've been searching for more info about this item for ages. I have no clue how (or why) this one has been added to the discography. As far as I remember I added a lot of releases from discogs or "how's your edge".
A couple of weeks ago I've been updating the discography and I found some other releases that shouldn't be in there, though I haven't deleted these since there are people who've added the items to their collection (like Jon, who also seems to have a UK 1st EP pressing???). My opinion is that this red-black marbled reissue is in fact the marbled solid red one, but a bit darker (more blackish). When I look at other colored vinyl pressings there's always some inconsistencies when it comes to the color. For example my No Control green reissue is much darker than the average pressings. Another example of this is the Stranger Than Fiction 12" white-pink. I've had a close look at my regular white 12" and it also has a bit of a pinkish swirl. However, I just don't believe that BR decided to release a white 12" and a white-pink 12". I think they're both the same, but during the production some other colors might have gotten mixed up while melting the vinyl. I guess it's just a production 'failure'. However, I'm still curious to see what the red marbled 7" looks like. Same goes for the white STF 12". |
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Posted: 07/02/2012 at 10:44 |
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Nice you have put some interest in all of this.
I've too been bummed out why there's been 2 different red euro RSD EP's. I own now 3 of the same red euro 1st EP RSD pressings cuz just trying to get me a copy of the non-existing 2nd red variation.. I'd also bet that there ain't a white AND a white/pink STF LP out there. Just no colored LP might be exactly the same. A tiny amount of pink residue in a white LP I think don't make it white-pink.. Whaddya think?... |
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Posted: 07/02/2012 at 16:14 |
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I agree on the pink-white and the regular white STF 12", and a production fail where the pink colouring wasn't mixed in well, giving a white marble with a little pink and a white marble with more pink. I would be happy to call these the same, so please go ahead and change this. I'll try to remember to scan my white STF tomorrow, from memory it's a solid white with bright white marbling through it.
As for the red 7", I would agree that the colour differences are just production inconsistancies. One of mine has slightly more black marbling in it than the other, but it's certainly not a completely different version. Like Mono, I've been tempted to buy a third one just to see if there are any differences!
I think I know why a third version was added to the discography- most references to this one tend to say 'dark red' or 'black-red', and quickly reviewing what's out there does make it seem like there are two versions around. I'll bring both of my reds in and scan them next to each other, but I don't think anything major is going to show up.
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Alice
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Posted: 07/04/2012 at 18:29 |
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Finally got around to loading these up! http://imgur.com/XTUG4,zwFhp There are two images on this link, the first is the white STF versions (L-R marbled light grey , marbled pink-white, white12" single). I included the white 12" STF single for reference as it was the one solid white I had. Jesse, is your white 12" LP is marbled and slightly translucent as well? If so, then they are the same version.
The second image is the red EU RSD 7", hopefully you'll be able to see the black marbling.
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Posted: 07/04/2012 at 23:57 |
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@Alice: Thanks a lot. I will have a look at my white 12" tonight! :)
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Posted: 07/05/2012 at 07:16 |
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But.. Ain't the STF 12'' single the one to the left?? And 2 STF albums to the right (center+right).
Aww, hell.. I probly oughta check all of my STFs too as well.. This all is getting a bit complicated... -:D Edited by MONOLITH - 07/05/2012 at 13:07 |
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Posted: 07/05/2012 at 15:56 |
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Oh god, now I'm confused. The one in the middle is definitely the 'pink-white'. I must have written them in the wrong order- the left one must be the 12" STF single going by the catalog ID (although it looks very grey...??), and then the one on the right is the marbled light grey (although it looks very white! It's not the white because mine doesn't have the printed dust sleeve....)Have to double check when I get home.
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Posted: 07/06/2012 at 02:00 |
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Yup. Just went thru ATG and HCHBAW (1994 vs 2009 black vinyl) etchings to compare pressings..
Might get confusing if not careful with the discs... -:D |
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Posted: 07/06/2012 at 06:32 |
I checked my STF 12" LP and compared it with the STF 12" single. The LP is definitely marbled (pink) and a bit translucent. The STF 12" single seems to be a bit more translucent and is marbled as well. However, it looks a bit green-grayish and not as white as the LP. So...guess my 12" LP is the same as yours? And after seeing the RSD 7" image I'm definitely sure that the red-black marbled 7" doesn't exist; it's just the regular European red 7". I will delete it from the discography (it's always possible to add it again if someone shows up with images of this red-black marbled 7").
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Posted: 07/09/2012 at 09:17 |
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i will get a sealed Stranger than Fiction single in few days any pic you need ? preview : http://www.ebay.ca/itm/300733871157?ssPa....l2649
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Posted: 07/09/2012 at 12:44 |
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Rip the singles pack up and take some great pics! We'd all love to see it!! -:D
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Posted: 07/09/2012 at 12:58 |
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Of course you can make some pictures. Do you happen to have more info about this three single pack (release date?).
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Posted: 07/09/2012 at 13:10 |
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i think those are 3x the same single in color ... not sure
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Posted: 07/09/2012 at 13:12 |
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i will get this Dvd Bootlegs too http://www.ebay.ca/itm/320936409030?ssPa....l2649 soon i get it i send picture + details
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Posted: 07/10/2012 at 07:51 |
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hey you guys do you have any detail for this version of Live At The Palladium [Limited Release] Jap ?
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html...IBP-61 :\ i try to but damm hard to find |
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Posted: 07/10/2012 at 10:26 |
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Posted: 07/23/2012 at 13:30 |
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hey i just got a new bootlegs in DVD from ebay : Rock Am Ring 2010
Picture : http://www.flickr.com/photos/59227132@N03/?saved=1 dont know if this item deserve to be on the discography fell free to take my picture or contact me to get theme Hope it help ! Jim |
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Posted: 07/23/2012 at 20:09 |
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Wow monolith got the same copy of the limited 3 single pack before i got it why i keep this secret before i told us here hehe
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Posted: 07/23/2012 at 21:17 |
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Monolith = BR merch consciousness.
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Posted: 08/23/2012 at 04:14 |
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So, this is a question about versions of the Suffer 12". I've become quite confused (makes a huge difference to my normal state I know) about what I thought were two of the same Sunset Blvd represses (http://www.thebrpage.net/discography/variation.asp?varID=87) .
Copy 1
- an older, square edged dust sleeve
- cover has a very blue tinge to it, yellow writing on back is somewhat hard to read
- thinner, lighter and floppier vinyl than the other,
- label looks like the one shown in the discog picture, with quite a wide circle from the vinyl within the label
- matrix matches with the matrix from the first pressing
- has Sunset Blvd address on the back Copy 2
- much newer and whiter dust sleeve with rounded edges
- quite thick and heavy vinyl
- label looks like the one shown in the discog picture, however the circle is much smaller within the label - matrix matches what is in the Discography for the repress
- has Sunset Blvd address on the back Both lyrics sheets feel the same, look the same. Both vinyls have the same barcodes and cataloge numbers.
From this, I assume copy 2 is a true repress, especially as it has the S- numbers on it, which seem to show when something is a repress. My questions is: what the hell is copy 1??
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