Pennywise Return To The Studio

oldmrfletcher wrote: thedude15 wrote: marvthezombie wrote: thedude15 wrote: I don't agree with Fletcher that they were moving in a less aggressive direction in the last few years of Jim's time in the band - Reason to Believe (for the most part) keeps their same aggression and sound, although All or Nothing is different from Reason to Believe in that the lyrics are way more positive. Hang on there, champ--Reason to Believe totally dropped the aggression of their earlier material. It was heavier and significantly slower, to the point where it was dragging it's knuckles on the ground as it jogged. All Or Nothing is WAY faster, and still better, for that matter, but both still pale in comparison to the first five albums. You have a good point if you look at some songs on Reason to Believe, such as We'll Never Know, Confusion, and Die For You which are slower. In my opinion some songs on that album like All We Need and You Get the Life You Choose still keep to their old school sound.  you get the life you choose is my all time pw favorite, and well never know and all we need are great too

Something to Live For destroys everything on that album.

Well, you just shouldn't use song titles as primary key and everything should be fine ;-)

It was realeased in 1995 as you say, on Theologian Records (the band's label before Epitaph), and also on a Theologian Records compilation (with "Don't Feel Nothing" and a cover of "Gimme Gimme" or something like that). But actually, it sounds like it had been recorded between Wilcard/A word from the wise and the self titled album.

vampailleur wrote: oldmrfletcher wrote: the fuse?! yikes. 18 soldiers is the worst song pw has made...by far Didn't you pass by here today? Anyway, I think reason to believe is better than the Fuse but slower. Playing faster does not make an album good or vice versa, the quality of the songs matters the most. There are some songs that get bette or worse if they're played faster or slower, but in general I think that songs are made to be played at a certain tempo.

I can't believe anyone can dislike Reason to Believe enough to put it last.  There are multiple songs on that album that are better than entire albums.  

After a first listening, I found the album rather boring, not worth PW-->2003, not worth Ignite.

18 soldiers is the worst song pw has made...by far

Reading this I gave it a try because I did not remember it ... that song is some kind of torture ! (Well, not as much as Rancid's L.A. river.)

Now, I'll play the "sorting of PW albums" game too:

01. About time
02. Pennywise
03. The unknown road
04. Straight ahead
05. Wildcard+A word from the wise
06. Full circle
07. Land of the free
08. From the ashes
09. the fuse
10. All or nothing
11. Reason to believe

(Added Wildcard+A word from the wise, less sure about it's position though, depending on my mood I could switch albums in ranges [01-03], [05-07] and [09-10].)

Edited by LV97 - 05/15/2012 at 14:13

thats like 90% close to how i would rank them...i might've bumped up unknown road a spot ... no matter the case i guess it's safe to say that a good number of pw fans consider the top 3 (4) their best work and the bottom 3 the least favorite 3 , all rankery aside

Edited by frod79 - 05/15/2012 at 12:08

LoL at Reason to Believe being slow and not aggressive.  Its a great Pennywise album and one of my favorites.  The first 5 tracks, minus the 2nd, are the best stuff Pennywise had done in a long time.  Something to Live For is incredible.  The album does slow down a little bit, but Pennywise always mixes alot of slow and fast songs together and some great tracks that really ripped are in the later half of the album.  

oldmrfletcher wrote: the fuse?! yikes. 18 soldiers is the worst song pw has made...by far

Edited by vampailleur - 05/14/2012 at 20:56

thedude15 wrote: I don't agree with Fletcher that they were moving in a less aggressive direction in the last few years of Jim's time in the band - Reason to Believe (for the most part) keeps their same aggression and sound, although All or Nothing is different from Reason to Believe in that the lyrics are way more positive.

Hang on there, champ--Reason to Believe totally dropped the aggression of their earlier material. It was heavier and significantly slower, to the point where it was dragging it's knuckles on the ground as it jogged. All Or Nothing is WAY faster, and still better, for that matter, but both still pale in comparison to the first five albums.