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...a band logo made by teenagers offending people... inconceivable!
 
I am sure people on the Bad Religion forum are for the most part, more apt to look as deeply as possible into the points their favorite band may be making. I just don't think a rational person would dismiss them for the things they say in their songs. If you only listen (not only in music, but in life in general)  to those that share and agree with our own beliefs, you live in a narrow passage. Believing that we are the only ones that possibly could be right, puts us in a boat, with many of the same people we claim to loathe. 
 
My parents might have rolled their eyes @the cross buster, but they were not afraid of it. They knew the decisions we make in life, our ours to make. And they were always very religious, and smart and thoughtful people. And thier example to me was based on  their values.
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Originally posted by golden golden wrote:

I am sure people on the Bad Religion forum are for the most part, more apt to look as deeply as possible into the points their favorite band may be making. I just don't think a rational person would dismiss them for the things they say in their songs..
 
I also think any rational person understands that the foot you put forward is the foot people notice. Whether it's fair or not, first impressions are lasting impressions. I think Greg and Brett are smart enough to understand this and so I think it's totally reasonable to assume that they're fine being thought of as anti-religious.
Luxury was priviledge and I knew it all along. But to let human reason get trumped by emotion is wrong.
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Originally posted by golden golden wrote:

Originally posted by BringBRTotheUK BringBRTotheUK wrote:

I did not know that you are a Christian - I always thought the religious fans of BR that Greg talks about were imaginary. 
 
Music is about sound... The lyrics that go with the music may be very important. But bands like the Ramones showed that you can be a powerful influence on music, without  ever writing a meaningful lyric.
 
That being said, the lyrics that Greg and Brett write are often not black & white and many can be interpreted in different ways. What may be clear to you, may mean something totally different to someone else. Although Greg's lyrics especially, have many times been clearly pointed at the belief in God, or the institution of religion, to me, it hardly defines all that he and the band has to offer. I always thought it was strange that someone would think that everyone who liked Bad Religion was an atheist .
I whole heartedly agree with you, golden. The thing that attracted me to BR years ago was their sound. I am just now finding about what their lyrics mean.
I want BR to play Anesthesia in every language at every country they go to.
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Originally posted by n1ckb0n3z n1ckb0n3z wrote:

Originally posted by golden golden wrote:

Originally posted by BringBRTotheUK BringBRTotheUK wrote:

I did not know that you are a Christian - I always thought the religious fans of BR that Greg talks about were imaginary. 
 
Music is about sound... The lyrics that go with the music may be very important. But bands like the Ramones showed that you can be a powerful influence on music, without  ever writing a meaningful lyric.
 
That being said, the lyrics that Greg and Brett write are often not black & white and many can be interpreted in different ways. What may be clear to you, may mean something totally different to someone else. Although Greg's lyrics especially, have many times been clearly pointed at the belief in God, or the institution of religion, to me, it hardly defines all that he and the band has to offer. I always thought it was strange that someone would think that everyone who liked Bad Religion was an atheist .
I whole heartedly agree with you, golden. The thing that attracted me to BR years ago was their sound. I am just now finding about what their lyrics mean.
Agree with both of you guys and I still don't care always about the lyrics, in first place I enjoy their melodies, Greg's voice and then the rest of the music and lyrics come last.  There are many songs which lyrics I don't understand or understand  them partially but still love the song.
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