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Of course you'd hear that. 

You seem like you're yuuuuge into alternative facts.
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What dumbfuckery has been spewed all over your post, Grig?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Greg Giraffin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01/26/2017 at 19:55
A putincuck got his jimmies rustled, and in the valiant attempt to form a rational thought, accidentally took a shit on his keyboard.
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As a pol i'm with Grig on this one. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Greg Giraffin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01/27/2017 at 19:09
Too many very confused or deceptive derps out there try to imply that the alternative to not being a putincuck is to go to war with russia. 

As we've seen for the past 35 years, that's certainly not the case. You can be tough on Russia without starting WW3.

On the contrary, the fear many have is that having an attitude of appeasement  toward Russia will allow it to begin to invade new territories begin to expand their empire again, and that in itself is more likely to make war with Russia inevitable. 

Russia has already shown that it cannot be trusted. Ukraine had what? Something like 3,000 nukes? The third largest nuclear stockpile in the entire world? And they gave it ALL to Russia under the condition that Russia would never invade Ukraine. And what has Russia done? It went and invaded Ukraine and stole some territory, in a direct violation of the treaty. 

In other words, Russia has proven that it can NOT be trusted to honor an agreement where one  eliminates their nuclear capabilities in exchange for peace

Trump and Putin want to eliminate NATO and the UN, the international framework that helps keep Russian expansionism in check since the Cold War. They are both conspiring to allow nuclear proliferation to resume once again. Trump and Putin both want more nukes and more anti-nuclear technology which in the extreme would remove the concept of deterrence from the table, one of the only things preventing a nuclear holocaust.



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http://www.independent.ie/world-news/europe/kgb-chief-linked-to-trump-file-found-dead-amid-kremlin-cover-up-claims-35404816.html

KGB chief linked to Trump file found dead amid Kremlin cover up claims

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Alex Jones is an utter moron and a perfect example of exactly what is wrong with America. In the eyes of Alex Jones and idiots like him, the truth is relative. With these morons each and every conspiracy theory, no matter how ridiculous (usually the more ridiculous, the better) is given credibility. And the scary thing is that these idiots have millions of followers. We live in an age where disinformation is viewed as legitimate, yet actual science and fact are questioned. 
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"The president says I will kill their families, then says how dare you think I was trying to kill their families after he kills their families.

The president says I want to ban Muslims. Then says how dare you think I was trying to ban the Muslims, after he bans Muslims.

The president says I sexually assault women. Then says how dare you think I was trying to sexually assault women. After women say he sexually assaulted them.

The president says yes I do have a relationship with Vladimir putin and his son says they have a lot of business interests in the country. Then says how dare you think I have a relationship with putin and have Russian business interests after documents say he had a relationship with putin and businesses in Russia.

Say what you will about the president, but he's a man of his word... sort of"


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From reddit on a post concerning Trump lifting the sanctions placed against Russia:

No matter what you believe, please take the time to read this and then ask yourself if you really think this is all a coincidence.

https://jesterscourt.cc/2017/01/28/russian-infiltration-us-federal-government/

And a series of unfortunate events :

Trump Dossier leaks. He's possibly being blackmailed:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump%E2%80%93Russia_dossier

Additionally financial incentives with Russia:

http://www.businessinsider.com/carter-page-trump-russia-igor-sechin-dossier-2017-1

Recording equipment was turned off for Trumps call with Putin :

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/02/foreign-policy-insider-no-readout-of-trump-putin-call-because-white-house-turned-off-recording/

An interesting bit of data related to Killed or wounded in action numbers of Ukraine/DNR forces in Crimea for 2017 so far:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C3mTrMwUoAElW_Z.jpg

Russia purges people in charge of intel (FSB). Multiple arrests:

http://money.cnn.com/2017/02/01/news/fsb-kaspersky-arrests/

Possible murders :

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01/27/mystery-death-ex-kgb-chief-linked-mi6-spys-dossier-donald-trump/

Tillerson gets put as Sec of State :

http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-rex-tillerson-vladimir-putin-russia-exxon-2016-12

Right after Tillerson is confirmed House removes transparency rule :

http://www.vox.com/2017/2/1/14477314/oil-companies-disclosure-rule-tillerson

Now sanctions are being messed with. If they go for full rollback of any kind, that more or less would be the final nail in the coffin.

Keep in mind that our intel agencies also know Russia was responsible for the DNC hack and are continuing to investigate Trump.

Just a coincidence right?

One extra thought I want people to take a moment and ask themselves...

If Trump and his administration WAS compromised. What would he be doing differently than he already is doing?

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http://www.mediaite.com/tv/in-a-2013-interview-trump-said-i-do-have-a-relationship-with-vladimir-putin/

Case Closed

From reddit:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/10/politics/russia-dossier-update/index.html

The longer we go the more "coincidences" we seem to be having.

Recommended reading :

https://jesterscourt.cc/2017/01/28/russian-infiltration-us-federal-government/

The relevant series of events

Trump

Trump has a relationship with Putin, which he has denied in recent times:

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/in-a-2013-interview-trump-said-i-do-have-a-relationship-with-vladimir-putin/

Trump recently defended Putin from being called a killer :

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/317945-trump-defends-putin-you-think-our-country-is-so-innocent

He's done this before :

http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-joe-scarborough-2015-12

Trump Dossier leaks. He's possibly being blackmailed:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump%E2%80%93Russia_dossier

Dossier claims possible gain of 19% share of Rosneft and not too long after 19% is sold to a currently unknown party

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-rosneft-privatisation-insight-idUSKBN1582OH

The spy who created the Dossier is highly regarded and wouldn't just make things up:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/12/intelligence-sources-vouch-credibility-donald-trump-russia-dossier-author

Additionally financial incentives with Russia:

http://www.businessinsider.com/carter-page-trump-russia-igor-sechin-dossier-2017-1

Recording equipment was turned off for Trumps call with Putin *anecdotal need confirmation :

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/02/foreign-policy-insider-no-readout-of-trump-putin-call-because-white-house-turned-off-recording/

Russia

Russia confirms it had communication with Trump during campaign. :

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-russia-trump-idUSKBN1351RJ

Russia purges people in charge of intel (FSB). Multiple arrests:

http://money.cnn.com/2017/02/01/news/fsb-kaspersky-arrests/

Murder related to the Dossier leak:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01/27/mystery-death-ex-kgb-chief-linked-mi6-spys-dossier-donald-trump/

An interesting bit of data related to Killed or wounded in action numbers of Ukraine/DNR forces in the Donbass region for 2017 so far:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C3mTrMwUoAElW_Z.jpg

Flynn

Seemingly has a relationship with Putin :

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/11/21/trumps-national-security-adviser-pick-raises-serious-questions-about-putins-influence-over-us-policy.html

And of course this current event:

http://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/318939-top-intel-dem-says-flynn-should-be-removed-if-he-talked-sanctions-with

Tillerson

Tillerson gets put as Sec of State, has a relationship with Putin:

http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-rex-tillerson-vladimir-putin-russia-exxon-2016-12

Right after Tillerson is confirmed House removes transparency rule :

http://www.vox.com/2017/2/1/14477314/oil-companies-disclosure-rule-tillerson

DNC Hack

Russia was directly responsible for the hack according to all government sources we have and additional independent sources that worked on behalf of the DNC. We've since announced sanctions and additional retaliation for those actions.

If we see sanctions getting rolled back at all its more or less the final nail in the coffin. Everything since the Dossier seems to confirm the info in the Dossier. Or we just happen to have an awful lot of Russia ties for seemingly no reason at all.

Just a coincidence right?

Bonus update

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/russia-eyes-sending-snowden-u-s-gift-trump-official-n718921

Will update if I remember any additional info or people provide anything, or fix anything incorrect

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Finally, it's happening. 

The revolt of the US intelligence community against this Kremlin spy

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