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Topic: Trumps Muslim Ban
Posted By: PreDispositionReport
Subject: Trumps Muslim Ban
Date Posted: 12/10/2015 at 10:01
As all the Liberal Democrat herp derps are in a big uproar over Trumps pledge to ban Muslims from entering the US, consider this- Number eight US Code 1182, inadmissible aliens. This law was written in 1952. It was passed by a Democrat-controlled Congress, House and Senate, and signed by a Democrat president.

"Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by president. Whenever the president finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, the president may, by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate."

This was even enacted by Democrat superstar Prez Carter during the Iranian Crisis in 79.
In the book, Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat, written by Dr. Peter Hammond, he explores the topic of the impact that an increasing Muslim population has on that society. The lists below illustrate the Muslim population status of countries around the world, and exactly what changes to the societies can be expected according to Hammond.
From the book:

As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens. This is the case in:

United States -- Muslim 0.6%
Australia -- Muslim 1.5%
Canada -- Muslim 1.9%
China -- Muslim 1.8%
Italy -- Muslim 1.5%
Norway -- Muslim 1.8%

At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs. This is happening in:

Denmark -- Muslim 2%
Germany -- Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom -- Muslim 2.7%
Spain -- Muslim 4%
Thailand -- Muslim 4.6%

From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves - along with threats for failure to comply. This is occurring in:

France -- Muslim 8%
Philippines -- 5%
Sweden -- Muslim 5%
Switzerland -- Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands -- Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad & Tobago -- Muslim 5.8%

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris , we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam, and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam , with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam. Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections, in:

Guyana -- Muslim 10%
India -- Muslim 13.4%
Israel -- Muslim 16%
Kenya -- Muslim 10%
Russia -- Muslim 15%

After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues, such as in:

Ethiopia -- Muslim 32.8%

At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare, such as in:

Bosnia -- Muslim 40%
Chad -- Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon -- Muslim 59.7%

From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and jizya (the tax placed on infidels), such as in:

Albania -- Muslim 70%
Malaysia -- Muslim 60.4%
Qatar -- Muslim 77.5%
Sudan -- Muslim 70%

After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, such as has been experienced and in some ways is on-going in:

Bangladesh -- Muslim 83%
Egypt -- Muslim 90%
Gaza -- Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia -- Muslim 86.1%
Iran -- Muslim 98%
Iraq -- Muslim 97%
Jordan -- Muslim 92%
Morocco -- Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan -- Muslim 97%
Palestine -- Muslim 99%
Syria -- Muslim 90%
Tajikistan -- Muslim 90%
Turkey -- Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates -- Muslim 96%

100% will usher in the peace of 'Dar-es-Salaam' - the Islamic "House of Peace". Here there's supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrasses are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word, such as in:

Afghanistan -- Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia -- Muslim 100%
Somalia -- Muslim 100%
Yemen -- Muslim 100%

Unfortunately, that peace is never achieved; because, in these 100% states, the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons.

Maybe it's not a really bad idea after all?

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Posted By: SOLDSHORT
Date Posted: 12/10/2015 at 10:05
Ah here's the dispo post I expected

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Posted By: PreDispositionReport
Date Posted: 12/10/2015 at 10:24
I actually dislike Trump, I still think he's a Plant used to infuriate all the swing voters and conservatives who are more to the center, and especially the women voters and Mexican Americans. He's donated millions to the Clintons in the past. It appears my hope of seeing a more Libertarian President elected is fading by day.

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Posted By: BFY
Date Posted: 12/10/2015 at 10:46
I assume that Recard will have views on this thread. Very left-wing views. ;)

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Posted By: PreDispositionReport
Date Posted: 12/10/2015 at 11:05
I will unfuck him too.

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Posted By: SOLDSHORT
Date Posted: 12/10/2015 at 11:49
Someone get recard drunk

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Posted By: Greg Giraffin
Date Posted: 12/10/2015 at 12:24
Trump and Dispo may both say dumb shit, but they're right on this issue.  

All three of us disagree with each other one, but we all agree on this point.

Idiots say Trump is "literally Hitler" for wanting to bar muslim refugees from entering the country, while completely ignoring the fact that even "moderate" Islam is more radicalized than Nazi Germany was at the peak of the holocaust. Muslims are even systematically executing homosexuals and other undesirables, including wishes to eliminate the Jews. So if you're going to start levelling accusations of Nazism, make sure you're pointing those accusations in the right direction, so you don't expose yourself as a total fucking imbecile blind to actual Nazi-like atrocities being currently perpetrated freely under the umbrella of Islam. 

That's like calling Trump a nazi for wanting to ban Nazi Germany-era Germans from entering our country. Get real. It's just about the only sensible thing he has ever said.

Often, the main difference between a "moderate" muslim and an extremist is whether or not they're acting on their beliefs. NOT in the substance of their beliefs themselves. The missing ingredient is critical mass. Once enough moderate muslims come together, they will self-"radicalize", as Dispo pointed out. I put "radicalize" in quotes because frankly, they're already radicalized. They're just not acting on their radical beliefs, because they're not surrounded by enough like-minded individuals to express that. Once that barrier is gone, all bets are off.

Liberal muslims make up about half of muslims. They're cool.

Moderate muslims make up about the other half. They're not cool. At all. If you disagree, let me show you the data, you only need to ask. But for some reason, they're being treated as benign, when they're anything but. 


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Posted By: idaho_voluntarist
Date Posted: 12/10/2015 at 13:22
How bout we let people move freely with the trends of the market 

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Posted By: idaho_voluntarist
Date Posted: 12/10/2015 at 13:25
But aren't you living with Kurdish Muslims? Wouldn't you learn to accept them?

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Posted By: PreDispositionReport
Date Posted: 12/10/2015 at 13:37
Kurdish are predominately Muslim yes. They are moderate, most of them anyway.

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Socialism is a disease.


Posted By: nropevolI
Date Posted: 12/10/2015 at 15:37
I have a kurdish colleague. He and his son are secretly ex Muslim and atheist now. He can't believe that his family is okay with muhammed being a paedophile and a murderer.

It's funny to read Greg giraffins opinion. In the Netherlands, the left wing people would call him a xenophobe extreme right nazi. It's okay to criticize Christians over here, but if you say anything about muslims, you are a nazi. It's not even the muslims who demand halal in schools and supermarkets, but it's white tree hugging left wing people who demand halal for those poor muslims. It doesn't make sense. In the sixties they protested against Christianity and for woman rights and now they defend the rights of Muslim women to cover their bodies and be submissive if the want to.


Posted By: idaho_voluntarist
Date Posted: 12/10/2015 at 18:07
I'm VERY anti-Islam, but it doesn't mean that we should ban an entire group of people from entering the country. 

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Posted By: George
Date Posted: 12/10/2015 at 18:14
Straight up Idaho. Lets take their refugees and victims. I want their narrative in our melting pot. They hate Islamic extremism more than any of our Western dumbasses.

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Posted By: George
Date Posted: 12/10/2015 at 18:16
Fuck all of Islam btw. All religion is extremism. Don't get me wrong. Though I'm sure these people are lovely despite their naive-hateful religions. Just like any other religious group.

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Posted By: Greg Giraffin
Date Posted: 12/10/2015 at 18:44
Originally posted by George George wrote:

Straight up Idaho. Lets take their refugees and victims. I want their narrative in our melting pot. They hate Islamic extremism more than any of our Western dumbasses.

They hate ISIS. You don't know much of their personal politics beyond that.

Keep in mind that Al Qaeda and ISIS are enemies. Just because one group is attacking the other group doesn't mean the victims can't be extremists (or even moderates for that matter... and I hope I've established how bad "moderate" muslims are too)

If you can figure out how to let in only the liberal muslims in, I'm totally down and would support that program 100%. 


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Posted By: kirkvanhouten
Date Posted: 12/10/2015 at 20:37
Shocking to see this on the page of a band who sings about thinking rationally and not falling into group-think demonizations.  The complete inability understand any nuance in the situation is extraordinary.  I don't know if you're deeply stupid or just easily susceptible to hate-mongering for easy solutions that don't actually solve anything. 

These posts show a shocking lack of nuance and extraordinary ignorance.  I'd like to address a few things here. 

1. Your odds of dying at the hands of Islamic terrorist is close to 0.  I mean...almost null.  Twice as many people in the United States will die from drowning in piles of grain this year...that's not a joke either. 

2. I'm no fan of religion, particularly it's ability to get people to do completely irrational things,  and Islam has a particular problem at this moment in history.  That being said, saying 1.5 billion people likely share the same ideology based on an umbrella term for several similar but not the same religious affiliations is the very definition of bigotry.  Do you really believe that closing borders is going to limit the likelihood of terrorism?  

3. From a strictly strategic standpoint, isn't othering Muslims and telling them they have no place in the outside world literally the worst possible way to combat Islamic terrorism?  The rise of ISIS is largely due to such actions in the first place, when Nouri Al Maliki began jailing Sunni officials and brutally attacking protestors, even more moderate Sunni's began the empathize with the only group that claimed to represent them...ISIS.  This is how extremist groups are born.  

4. Want more moderate Muslims?  Stop funding Saudi Arabia who in turns funds Wahabbist institutions that drive people to this madness. 

From a strictly strategic standpoint, putting more and more people in desperate situations is the exact opposite way to stop terrorism.

From a logical standpoint, you aren't going to be killed by an Islamic terrorist.  Almost 100% certainly.  

From a moral standpoint, it's really hard to differentiate those of you saying we have to keep all Muslims out with people who say we need to keep black people out of their neighborhood.  Sure, one is race, and one is religion, but you are still lumping literally billions of people in with the worst aspects that share their religion.  



Posted By: Greg Giraffin
Date Posted: 12/10/2015 at 21:24
Originally posted by kirkvanhouten kirkvanhouten wrote:

1. Your odds of dying at the hands of Islamic terrorist is close to 0.

Unless you live somewhere with a lot of "moderate" muslims. Thankfully that's not an issue, yet. And I hope we can keep it that way.

Originally posted by kirkvanhouten kirkvanhouten wrote:

2.  Do you really believe that closing borders is going to limit the likelihood of terrorism?
  
Yes. Did you not ready anything posted here?

Originally posted by kirkvanhouten kirkvanhouten wrote:

3. From a strictly strategic standpoint, isn't othering Muslims and telling them they have no place in the outside world literally the worst possible way to combat Islamic terrorism?  The rise of ISIS is largely due to such actions in the first place, when Nouri Al Maliki began jailing Sunni officials and brutally attacking protestors, even more moderate Sunni's began the empathize with the only group that claimed to represent them...ISIS.  This is how extremist groups are born.
  
If you're worried that moderates will think "Hey, they think we're terrorists! Fucking assholes, lets kill 'em!", then they weren't really moderates now, were they? I think you're only demonstrating our exact point here. The moderates are already radicalized.

Originally posted by kirkvanhouten kirkvanhouten wrote:

4. Want more moderate Muslims?  Stop funding Saudi Arabia who in turns funds Wahabbist institutions that drive people to this madness.
 
That'll happen when their oil runs out. The US economy is held afloat by the OPEC petrodollar. It's a nice idea, but it's not going to happen anytime soon unless shit gets really, really bad.

Originally posted by kirkvanhouten kirkvanhouten wrote:

From a strictly strategic standpoint, putting more and more people in desperate situations is the exact opposite way to stop terrorism.

Well educated (PhD level) and financially stable muslims are actually disproportionately more likely to become terrorists. So if you want to talk about strategy, then consider the repercussions of that fact.

Furthermore, if you really want to discuss the nuance of strategy, then you need to stop talking about any individual American's chance at dying at the hands of an Islamic terrorist. Because quite frankly, you need to be worried about there being ANY further Islamic attacks in the US whatsoever. You must be worried about doing absolutely all you can do stop even a single attack. Because each additional attack at this point is going to throw the population closer and closer over the edge until some psycho moron like Trump gets elected and the populace demands massive military action against offending countries. You want to worry about keeping muslims calm? You better think fucking twice about who the bigger beast in this fight is, and worry about keeping that one calm.

Originally posted by kirkvanhouten kirkvanhouten wrote:

From a moral standpoint, it's really hard to differentiate those of you saying we have to keep all Muslims out with people who say we need to keep black people out of their neighborhood.  Sure, one is race, and one is religion, but you are still lumping literally billions of people in with the worst aspects that share their religion.
  
It's not hard at all unless you're a moral imbecile who insists on thinking that a genetic race is in any way comparable to a system of beliefs.


Originally posted by kirkvanhouten kirkvanhouten wrote:

Shocking to see this on the page of a band who sings about thinking rationally and not falling into group-think demonizations.

Lol. You want to talk about Bad Religion. Islam is the Worst Religion. As has already been mentioned, half of muslims (liberal muslims) are totally fine. The other roughly half (so-called "moderate" muslims) believe radical insane shit.  Go ahead and argue that rationally, use data to refute our data, but don't try to dismiss this as merely group-think demonization. This isn't about generalizing all muslims. It's about waking people up to the fact that HALF of them are a serious problem. Again, that's more radicalized than Nazi Germany was at the peak of the Holocaust. And people don't have much of a problem generalizing or demonizing Nazi Germany. Anyway, I can't stress this enough. Don't miss the point. This isn't about trying to hate all muslims. It's about trying to express the level and frequency of radicalization amongst muslims.


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Posted By: PreDispositionReport
Date Posted: 12/12/2015 at 05:20
JDR, Liberal Hero. Locked up over a 100 000 Japanese Americans. But Trump and the Republicans are the fascists, soley because they are "Republican"

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Posted By: Greg Giraffin
Date Posted: 12/12/2015 at 06:36
There were German internment camps and public registration in the US as well:

President  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodrow_Wilson" rel="nofollow - Woodrow Wilson  (Democrat) issued two sets of regulations on April 6, 1917, and November 16, 1917, imposing restrictions on German-born male residents of the United States over the age of 14. The rules were written to include natives of Germany who had become citizens of countries other than the U.S.; all were classified as aliens. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_German_Americans#cite_note-2" rel="nofollow - [2]  Some 250,000 people in that category were required to register at their local post office, to carry their registration card at all times, and to report any change of address or employment. The same regulations and registration requirements were imposed on females on April 18, 1918. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_German_Americans#cite_note-3" rel="nofollow - [3]  Some 6,300 such aliens were arrested. Thousands were interrogated and investigated. A total of 2,048 were incarcerated for the remainder of the war in two camps, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Douglas,_Utah" rel="nofollow - Fort Douglas, Utah , for those west of the  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mississippi_River" rel="nofollow - Mississippi , and  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Oglethorpe_%28prisoner-of-war_camp%29" rel="nofollow - Fort Oglethorpe, Georgia , for those east of the Mississippi. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_German_Americans#cite_note-4" rel="nofollow - [4]

And being German or Japanese isn't even a fucking system of beliefs. 


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Posted By: idaho_voluntarist
Date Posted: 12/12/2015 at 21:53
Originally posted by PreDispositionReport PreDispositionReport wrote:

JDR, Liberal Hero.

Ahh yes, Jranklin Roosevelt


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Posted By: CONTEXT
Date Posted: 12/13/2015 at 10:01
Originally posted by PreDispositionReport PreDispositionReport wrote:

As all the Liberal Democrat herp derps are in a big uproar over Trumps pledge to ban Muslims from entering the US, consider this- Number eight US Code 1182, inadmissible aliens. This law was written in 1952. It was passed by a Democrat-controlled Congress, House and Senate, and signed by a Democrat president.

"Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by president. Whenever the president finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, the president may, by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate."

This was even enacted by Democrat superstar Prez Carter during the Iranian Crisis in 79.
In the book, Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat, written by Dr. Peter Hammond, he explores the topic of the impact that an increasing Muslim population has on that society. The lists below illustrate the Muslim population status of countries around the world, and exactly what changes to the societies can be expected according to Hammond.
From the book:

As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens. This is the case in:

United States -- Muslim 0.6%
Australia -- Muslim 1.5%
Canada -- Muslim 1.9%
China -- Muslim 1.8%
Italy -- Muslim 1.5%
Norway -- Muslim 1.8%

At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs. This is happening in:

Denmark -- Muslim 2%
Germany -- Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom -- Muslim 2.7%
Spain -- Muslim 4%
Thailand -- Muslim 4.6%

From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves - along with threats for failure to comply. This is occurring in:

France -- Muslim 8%
Philippines -- 5%
Sweden -- Muslim 5%
Switzerland -- Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands -- Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad & Tobago -- Muslim 5.8%

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris , we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam, and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam , with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam. Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections, in:

Guyana -- Muslim 10%
India -- Muslim 13.4%
Israel -- Muslim 16%
Kenya -- Muslim 10%
Russia -- Muslim 15%

After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues, such as in:

Ethiopia -- Muslim 32.8%

At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare, such as in:

Bosnia -- Muslim 40%
Chad -- Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon -- Muslim 59.7%

From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and jizya (the tax placed on infidels), such as in:

Albania -- Muslim 70%
Malaysia -- Muslim 60.4%
Qatar -- Muslim 77.5%
Sudan -- Muslim 70%

After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, such as has been experienced and in some ways is on-going in:

Bangladesh -- Muslim 83%
Egypt -- Muslim 90%
Gaza -- Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia -- Muslim 86.1%
Iran -- Muslim 98%
Iraq -- Muslim 97%
Jordan -- Muslim 92%
Morocco -- Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan -- Muslim 97%
Palestine -- Muslim 99%
Syria -- Muslim 90%
Tajikistan -- Muslim 90%
Turkey -- Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates -- Muslim 96%

100% will usher in the peace of 'Dar-es-Salaam' - the Islamic "House of Peace". Here there's supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrasses are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word, such as in:

Afghanistan -- Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia -- Muslim 100%
Somalia -- Muslim 100%
Yemen -- Muslim 100%

Unfortunately, that peace is never achieved; because, in these 100% states, the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons.

Maybe it's not a really bad idea after all?


Huge shouts out to you for putting this out there. I agree. I may not agree with trump on everything (imminent domain mainly), however, people who say this is unconstitutional do not understand the constitution in the most basic form, that it only applies to people INSIDE OF the United States and not those who are outside of it.

The stats are real. This is what has pissed me off about the US arming these "moderate opposition" groups. There are no "moderate opposition forces" fighting ISIS. They end up fighting alongside ISIS. The US should arm the Kurds, nobody else. But then, Turkey is run by criminals fights against the KURDS. Turkey helps ISIS sell oil and is a NATO member? Middle-east gaggle-fuck coming to a head. It's insane.

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Posted By: PreDispositionReport
Date Posted: 12/13/2015 at 10:44
Haha

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Posted By: JohnKetman
Date Posted: 12/13/2015 at 13:01
Donald Trump is the idiot thanks to peoples like him the world hates the U S
First the blacks then the mexiCans now the muslims Who's next ?
Somebody should do something with this men


Posted By: Greg Giraffin
Date Posted: 12/13/2015 at 21:03
So it's okay for the "world" to hate the entire US because of people like Donald Trump (who isn't even president, and who hasn't executed anyone) but NOT okay to hate on Islamists and "moderate" muslims who actually systematically execute (or who in great numbers ideologically support the execution of) homosexuals, sexually liberated women, nonbelievers and political cartoonists, among other undesirables?

Seems fair.

Keep in mind that one is a system of beliefs and the other is a geographical location. 


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Posted By: PreDispositionReport
Date Posted: 12/13/2015 at 23:14


The stats are real. This is what has pissed me off about the US arming these "moderate opposition" groups. There are no "moderate opposition forces" fighting ISIS. They end up fighting alongside ISIS. The US should arm the Kurds, nobody else. But then, Turkey is run by criminals fights against the KURDS. Turkey helps ISIS sell oil and is a NATO member? Middle-east gaggle-fuck coming to a head. It's insane. [/QUOTE]


Tell me about it.


And Fuck Turkey.

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Posted By: PreDispositionReport
Date Posted: 12/14/2015 at 09:21
Political correctness will be the destroyer of our Western way of life. Everyone was too busy being too afraid to "offend" certain people or groups while at the same time the barbarians were planning their invasion hidden behind the veil of mass appeasement.

Just look at UK and France. Sharia zones. UN fucking real. And their government just allowed this shit, so as not to upset the immigrants who have never fought for their new countries, never paid taxes, leach off the toil of the working man, then beats him up on his way back from the pub because he stumbled in to a "Sharia" zone. On the soil his grandfather died fighting to defend against the last group of fascist fucks.

Ready the fucking boat.

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Posted By: idaho_voluntarist
Date Posted: 12/14/2015 at 10:38
Muh borderz. We nede to protekt muh borderz.

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Posted By: idaho_voluntarist
Date Posted: 12/14/2015 at 10:40
Sharia Law zones don't actually exist. One of my Facebook friends is from Western England where there's a high concentration of Muslims, and he's never seen anything even resembling a Sharia zone

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Posted By: Greg Giraffin
Date Posted: 12/14/2015 at 11:07
Originally posted by idaho_voluntarist idaho_voluntarist wrote:

Sharia Law zones don't actually exist. One of my Facebook friends is from Western England where there's a high concentration of Muslims, and he's never seen anything even resembling a Sharia zone

A BBC Panorama documentary secretly filmed inside several of the 85 Sharia law courts operating in Britain can be viewed  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gZCFdHkd4A" rel="nofollow - here  and  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQ3PIhFHDdE" rel="nofollow - here

And an in-depth article on the issue:

http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5177/no-go-zones-britain" rel="nofollow - http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5177/no-go-zones-britain


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Posted By: che sus
Date Posted: 12/14/2015 at 11:09
Of course there are no places where they behead, whip or stone people in western europe. There are however segregated neighbourhoods where gays & women who arent modestly dressed/lead a western lifestyle are harassed, and ex-muslims & converts face death threats. This is well reported by secular muslims. Unfortuneatly some cultural relativists exacerbate this and side with islamist reactionaries who have learned the most usefull tool of crying racism when this gets reported.


Posted By: CONTEXT
Date Posted: 12/16/2015 at 06:47
Originally posted by PreDispositionReport PreDispositionReport wrote:

Political correctness will be the destroyer of our Western way of life. Everyone was too busy being too afraid to "offend" certain people or groups while at the same time the barbarians were planning their invasion hidden behind the veil of mass appeasement.

Just look at UK and France. Sharia zones. UN fucking real. And their government just allowed this shit, so as not to upset the immigrants who have never fought for their new countries, never paid taxes, leach off the toil of the working man, then beats him up on his way back from the pub because he stumbled in to a "Sharia" zone. On the soil his grandfather died fighting to defend against the last group of fascist fucks.

Ready the fucking boat.


What is happening to Europe is sad and just fucked. I hate to be the asshole to say I am glad we at least have oceans on two sides. But I am. Last weekend me and my brother had a kick back (reflecting on modern shit) and were never happier to hear the usual Mexican music bumping all around our neighborhood. Thank god its Mexican music and not a call to prayer.

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Posted By: jabberwock
Date Posted: 12/16/2015 at 13:43
this... "You must be worried about doing absolutely all you can do stop even a single attack. Because each additional attack at this point is going to throw the population closer and closer over the edge until some psycho moron like Trump gets elected and the populace demands massive military action against offending countries. You want to worry about keeping muslims calm? You better think fucking twice about who the bigger beast in this fight is, and worry about keeping that one calm." g. giraffin

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Posted By: George
Date Posted: 12/16/2015 at 17:41
And what is Giraffin's method of avoiding a single attack?
Ban muslims from entering the US?

How can you buy into this tautology Jabberwock?

We have the power to blow Islamic nations to smithereens (we exemplify it daily).
So we should avoid having to blow them to smithereens,
by taking extreme measures,
banning all of the refugees we are responsible for,
because they might give us an excuse to blow them to smithereens,
and blow them to smithereens?

(I apologize for the strange structure of this post. Simplifying circular logic is tricky. Besides, I think it looks pretty stylish, so fuck you.)


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Posted By: SOLDSHORT
Date Posted: 12/16/2015 at 17:48
Somebody dig up Woodrow Wilson

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Posted By: jabberwock
Date Posted: 12/16/2015 at 19:07
the cavernous gap between what is happening now and what could potentially happen with the full approval of a misguided public is where your "tautology" reference comes apart. 

never once have i stated anything close to agreeing with anything anyone has said, OTHER than what i have posted.


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Posted By: jabberwock
Date Posted: 12/16/2015 at 19:13
Originally posted by SOLDSHORT SOLDSHORT wrote:

Somebody dig up Woodrow Wilson
ann or nancy wilson... but not both


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Posted By: SOLDSHORT
Date Posted: 12/16/2015 at 19:57
Originally posted by jabberwock jabberwock wrote:


Originally posted by SOLDSHORT SOLDSHORT wrote:

Somebody dig up Woodrow Wilson

ann or nancy wilson... but not both


What about Brian wilson

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Posted By: jabberwock
Date Posted: 12/16/2015 at 20:08
too many drugs... he's out

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Posted By: George
Date Posted: 12/16/2015 at 20:16


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Posted By: Greg Giraffin
Date Posted: 12/16/2015 at 20:54


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Posted By: SOLDSHORT
Date Posted: 12/16/2015 at 21:53


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Posted By: Greg Giraffin
Date Posted: 12/16/2015 at 22:06


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Posted By: PreDispositionReport
Date Posted: 12/17/2015 at 08:56
Perhaps a group field trip to Deerborn Michigan is in order here

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Posted By: SOLDSHORT
Date Posted: 12/17/2015 at 09:47
Too close to dimmy

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Posted By: PreDispositionReport
Date Posted: 12/17/2015 at 09:52
WHERE THE FUCK IS RHETT!?!

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Posted By: SOLDSHORT
Date Posted: 12/17/2015 at 11:25
THEY got him

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Posted By: dv802
Date Posted: 12/17/2015 at 14:59
I personally believe that Trump is just too extreme to be the answer. I do agree with him that there are issues in this world that need to be addressed that aren't currently being addressed because of this whole PC ideology that is killing us. I don't think racist beliefs are beliefs that should be credited, but Trump is playing to people's fears. Another reason why I believe he has the support he has is because there's not one republican or democrat that is coming close to a middle ground between the extreme left Obama and the extreme right Trump in terms of addressing this PC bullshit. People are tired of walking on eggshells over who they will offend, who will sue them for the most ridiculous nonsense and offended over basically everything. This world is too edgy now and needs a reform in a major way, because if we don't people like Trump will have the support he has because where else is there to turn to. FYI I don't support Trump but I can understand the otherside of my own views because I am not a prick.

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Posted By: PreDispositionReport
Date Posted: 12/17/2015 at 15:48
Trump is a fucking Plant. His bullshit is going to force people to vote for...hold on, I gag every time I have to say her name..ugh..Hillary,* choke*fucking Clinton.

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Posted By: Greg Giraffin
Date Posted: 12/17/2015 at 16:13
Clinton is a republican too. That's why a lot of dems don't give a shit about her. Hopefully people will have the sense to vote for Sanders instead :)

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Posted By: PreDispositionReport
Date Posted: 12/17/2015 at 16:24
Sanders, GTFO.

First of all, it should be mandatory that the President had to have served at least 8 years in the armed forces.


America's best chance is Paul. But sadly Americans don't vote for intelligent Doctors with common sense and integrity

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Posted By: Greg Giraffin
Date Posted: 12/17/2015 at 16:44
Luckily they don't seem to vote for "intelligent" Doctors who apparently confuse the egyptian pyramids with the food pyramid... loaded with grain

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Posted By: PreDispositionReport
Date Posted: 12/17/2015 at 17:33
Bad copy, repeat last, over.

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Posted By: Greg Giraffin
Date Posted: 12/17/2015 at 18:24
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/republicans/11985357/Experts-ridicule-Ben-Carsons-claim-the-pyramids-were-built-to-store-grain.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/republicans/11985357/Experts-ridicule-Ben-Carsons-claim-the-pyramids-were-built-to-store-grain.html

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Posted By: PreDispositionReport
Date Posted: 12/17/2015 at 18:49
No, fuck Carson. I'm talking about Rand Paul. Dr. Rand Paul.

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Posted By: PreDispositionReport
Date Posted: 12/17/2015 at 18:55
What boggles my mind is that more fans on here are not Libertarian supporters.

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Posted By: George
Date Posted: 12/17/2015 at 20:47
How does accepting refugees classify as PC? This isn't about offending or not offending people.


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Posted By: Greg Giraffin
Date Posted: 12/17/2015 at 21:34
I'm a left wing libertarian (in the technical meaning of the word). And I respect the sentiment and motivations behind all libertarianism.

The argument that taxation is a form of violence is something I can agree with. I also like people's ability to be individualists and survivalists.

Can't really have it both ways though. Ultimately I value a functioning society more than total economic freedom, and I think that hard libertarianism won't do the trick. I like the ideas, but don't like the probable outcomes. Most likely we'll just be replacing government with corporatocracy, which will be even less accountable to the best interests of the public.

Politically I agree with a lot of what both social democrats and libertarians say. But after hearing a few very prolonged debates between proponents of both, I've moved more towards the social democrat side.

I'd totally be cool with some sort of compromise where maybe one US state just went all libertarian in a bit of a trial run. And if they started fucking up the environment, or shit otherwise went down hill, the experiment would end. And if it worked, the program could be expanded. Real pipe dream though. Either way, I imagine it would fail.


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Date Posted: 12/18/2015 at 05:56


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Posted By: CONTEXT
Date Posted: 12/24/2015 at 01:01
Originally posted by George George wrote:

How does accepting refugees classify as PC? This isn't about offending or not offending people.

Are you willing to let a random Syrian refugee live in your house? If so then by all means go right ahead. Just keep an eye on that motherfucker.

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Posted By: Groomits
Date Posted: 12/26/2015 at 10:17
Originally posted by PreDispositionReport PreDispositionReport wrote:

Sanders, GTFO.

First of all, it should be mandatory that the President had to have served at least 8 years in the armed forces.


America's best chance is Paul. But sadly Americans don't vote for intelligent Doctors with common sense and integrity

But you do know that austrian economics don't work right? Not sure about Rand, but Ron has been wrong about economics for his entire life, and it's much more obvious since the 08 crisis.


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Posted By: -Fatal- Apocalypse
Date Posted: 12/31/2015 at 11:49

There's a book on both sides. It makes no sense preventing the battle when you believe you're the ones going to win it just the same as them.

And when their holy war really begins, just remember you never own something until you renounce it. Defend your children.

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Posted By: Greg Giraffin
Date Posted: 01/15/2016 at 08:07
Because we've all be silent on the issue.

I don't get any pleasure from saying I told you so.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3400842/German-leisure-centre-ban-migrants-schoolgirl-sexually-assaulted-public-swimming-pool-Syrian-teenagers.html" rel="nofollow - German leisure centre becomes the first to ban all migrants after a schoolgirl was sexually assaulted in a public swimming pool by Syrian teenagers  


Enjoy your peace loving muslims who come from a culture where violently gang-raping random girls in public in broad daylight is disconcertingly commonplace.



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Posted By: Greg Giraffin
Date Posted: 01/15/2016 at 08:08
Also let us not forget the new years "party"

http://www.examiner.com/article/cologne-police-chief-fired-amid-sex-attack-by-1000-muslims-german-media-coverup" rel="nofollow - Cologne police chief fired after sex attack by 1000 Muslims: Teens gang-raped

Counting down until the psychotic liberals rush to the defense of the gangrape perpetrators. 5...4...3...


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Date Posted: 08/05/2019 at 01:04
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Date Posted: 08/06/2019 at 22:20
Coop is a necromancer!


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