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Dissecting 'Honest Goodbye'
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Sound the Sirens, a website for music, movies and other entertainment, just released an article entitled: "Dissecting the new Bad Religion song".
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The article is as follows:
Dissecting the new Bad Religion song
We recently discussed the impending release of Bad Religion?s anticipated 14th studio album; and now it seems much debate has sparked from an album preview posted on the band?s MySpace.
The track, ?Honest Goodbye,? is the first to be previewed from The New Maps of Hell, and as one would expect at Punknews, has provided a polarizing range of comments and opinions. But before we get to the comic geniuses at Punknews, my thoughts are that while the song certainly is lacking in energy and pace, it?s still a decently written pop rock number with the usual Bad Religion-esque qualities (the ?woah woahs? and so forth). It is definitely in need of some sense of urgency and I hope the rest of the album picks up the slack, but I?m not too worried just yet. The New Maps of Hell is due in stores July 10th via Epitaph.
Now here are some of the best of the worst comments from PN.org:
?these guys are old and tired. their songs are wack. the end.?
?The new MXPX song sounds more like Bad Religion than the new Bad Religion song.?
?Been a fan for over 10 years, but if the rest of the new album is like this tune I?ll be one sad panda??
?Even for Bad Religion this is sucky. Fuck thesaurus punx.?
and the best?
?they need six guys to make this??
Personally, I like Honest Goodbye. I mean, it's no Generator or The Answer, but I think it's a positive step forward in the evolution of Bad Religion.
Read the Article
The article is as follows:
Dissecting the new Bad Religion song
We recently discussed the impending release of Bad Religion?s anticipated 14th studio album; and now it seems much debate has sparked from an album preview posted on the band?s MySpace.
The track, ?Honest Goodbye,? is the first to be previewed from The New Maps of Hell, and as one would expect at Punknews, has provided a polarizing range of comments and opinions. But before we get to the comic geniuses at Punknews, my thoughts are that while the song certainly is lacking in energy and pace, it?s still a decently written pop rock number with the usual Bad Religion-esque qualities (the ?woah woahs? and so forth). It is definitely in need of some sense of urgency and I hope the rest of the album picks up the slack, but I?m not too worried just yet. The New Maps of Hell is due in stores July 10th via Epitaph.
Now here are some of the best of the worst comments from PN.org:
?these guys are old and tired. their songs are wack. the end.?
?The new MXPX song sounds more like Bad Religion than the new Bad Religion song.?
?Been a fan for over 10 years, but if the rest of the new album is like this tune I?ll be one sad panda??
?Even for Bad Religion this is sucky. Fuck thesaurus punx.?
and the best?
?they need six guys to make this??
Personally, I like Honest Goodbye. I mean, it's no Generator or The Answer, but I think it's a positive step forward in the evolution of Bad Religion.
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05/21/2007 at 03:25
I agree 100% with the post below.
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05/19/2007 at 20:22
The term "Punx" is the reason I feel awkward about using the term "Punk" in public.
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05/19/2007 at 20:02
I didn't particularly care for "Los Angeles is Burning" and to me its the weakest track on TESF. Honest Goodbye is ok, Heroes and Martyrs ROCKS! The CD will be awesome, it's fucking Bad Religion People!!!
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05/18/2007 at 04:44
Wow, these people are so bored with their own mundane existence that they announce cynical condemnation as if they themselves are the chief Bad Religion connoisseurs and implement self-righteousness by doing so. God, this world really is going to hell, In fact, I didn?t think that the song was that awful.
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05/17/2007 at 22:09
Jau, read the comments on the new topic by Matt.
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05/17/2007 at 21:37
I would've Su, but I they got it first, therefore they got dibs. I'm too much of a gentleman to steal from a fellow BR site.
Unless of course someone emailed us before hand saying how much more awesome-er we are :D |
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05/17/2007 at 21:13
hahah ok "Mike" and no worries, i wasn't confused.
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05/17/2007 at 21:02
"No it's not you neil."
Bwaha, hope you're not confusing me with the usual Neil that's around here. Actually, Mike, I'm another Mike. At any rate, I could also swear that on at least one of the H&M videos on youtube has some crazy lead guitar between the verse... You can hear something different in each video so I dunno. |
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05/17/2007 at 20:59
Sorry but it's not easy to read all your comments about you like or dislike Honest Goodbye - I felt bored and gave it up ))
You shoud mark the post with the link somehow)) |
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05/17/2007 at 20:48
Aw, Jau, you should've put up the song, not everybody reads the comments here. :P
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05/17/2007 at 20:37
Sorry for misprint - Version
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05/17/2007 at 20:36
Have you allready heard the album wersion of Heroes & Martyrs? That's so great!! It makes all these debates ridiculous
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05/17/2007 at 20:22
To Jau_Peacecraft
Thanks !! The Mistake has been fixed ! Cheers Socpunk |
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05/17/2007 at 20:20
I simply don't get all the commotion over this song? First, its ONE song from an album. Its like pulling a chapter out of a book and trashing the novel based on the content of that one chapter. And for the goofballs asking "why did they pick THAT song as a single"?....I retort, what the hell does a single matter to a punk band? Did you think BR had a shot at contending with Beyonce or Justin on the Billboard singles chart and you're upset cause they blew their big chance?? Simmer the f*ck down and wait for the album!
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05/17/2007 at 20:15
also yea, around the 13th listen to the song, i agree a solo might be nice, but in the context of the album it probably won't need one.
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05/17/2007 at 20:14
I think it's last as in "most recent"
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05/17/2007 at 20:13
Um bad-religion.net may want to revise their english section concerning the official release of heroes and martyrs...this is NOT the last album.
i would bitch more but it's hopefully just a translation mistake. |
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05/17/2007 at 20:10
I love the BGVs into the chorus, it's great to hear those with all the extra tracks.
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05/17/2007 at 20:09
No it's not you neil. Not only is the mix very unlike any other BR, but it clips like mad. I don't think this could possibly be the final master...maybe a pre-mix?
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05/17/2007 at 19:56
Awesome.
Is it just me or do the lead vocals seem to be a little washed out? Could be that my new speakers never have quite jived with my sound card, but it seems about the same with headphones on. I'm not biatching though. 100% grateful... I'll just listen harder if I have too. |
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05/17/2007 at 19:51
To Chito from Mexico on 2007-05-17 @ 19:22
Thanx man. Pretty sound! I think I had already heard this song in a show of BR few years ago... Mayby it was in my dream of my nightmare... Who's knows! |
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05/17/2007 at 19:26
I bet you that any other punk band, or ANY band, couldn't even get close to what BR has accomplished... Honest goodbye, is the type of song, that has been in almost every single BR album... Epiphany, boot stamping, etc, etc....
And please, if you're the kind of person that doesn't like BR anymore, because they're too old, too young, too fast, too slow, too whatever... guess what? You have a choice! Go with whatever rocks your boat, leave them alone! Too old? for what? for music? Brett is barely 45, and you want him to retire? No one ever says that in other professions, like directing, no one says Scorcese, is over the hill, he's got to retire! Because he's still relevant! just like BR, and fucking Jack Daniel's... So the moral of the story goes: Don't like em', don't buy them, and go to hell!... which by the way, there are new maps, and you won't have them. :-( Tough! |
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05/17/2007 at 19:22
Get Heroes and Martyrs Final Release
www.bad-religion.net/news/news-Ingles/ blog-en.html |
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05/17/2007 at 18:11
None of us actually know what the rest of the album is like, except Jay, and Honest Goodbye is very radio friendly, which is why it is the single.
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05/17/2007 at 17:47
it's not bad, just dissapointing...even for a single, i mean if the rest of the album is so different like everyone says, why do they picked this song? people know how bad religion sounds, i think the single should have been a faster song that really describes bad religion music
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05/17/2007 at 16:27
Really like Brett's video. Ahh memories.
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05/17/2007 at 16:20
Remember the Simpson's episode where Homer dresses up a panda and the other panda starts getting a bit kinky with him?
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05/17/2007 at 15:51
?Been a fan for over 10 years, but if the rest of the new album is like this tune I?ll be one sad panda?? hahaha, remeber that south park episode with the sexual harassement panda...funny people are still callingt themselves "sad panda".
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05/17/2007 at 15:30
Honest Goodbye is fuckin awsome,compare to most other punkbands they still got it. A band needs to move on with their sound to grow.Keep up the good work.
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05/17/2007 at 14:55
btw it's myspace.com/brettosis if you want to have a look.
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05/17/2007 at 14:54
Has anyone seen the music video on Brett's myspace page? It's an animation made from dice, really cool.
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05/17/2007 at 14:23
"I think they should redo the song with a solo, though. It sounds empty without one."
Yes, that's what I thought from the beginning, it somehow lacks a significant guitar section. Apart from that, Honest Goodbye is a good and quite typical pop-punk song, Brett Gurewitz style. By the way, did anybody recognize that many of these Brett songs are written in A? |
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05/17/2007 at 14:14
Honest Goodbye aside, I'm interested in seeing other literary references on this album. For example, given Mr. Brett's respect for Kurt Vonnegut and his works, I find myself asking if the song Lost Pilgrim has any relation to the protagonist of Slaughterhouse-Five. It's a stretch, yes, but I'm enjoying the possibilities.
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05/17/2007 at 10:41
*applauds Jimmy Jazz* agree with what you said, and the bit about balls stuck in a blender cracked me up. bravo!
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05/17/2007 at 06:35
I hate it when people use the word "punx". Go listen to your stupid Casualties, wankers, with the lead singer screaming like he got his balls stuck in a blender. Honest Goodbye is a kick ass alternative rock song that does sound a bit like Weezer, but that's ok. I think they should redo the song with a solo, though. It sounds empty without one.
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05/17/2007 at 06:01
just don't know many who know about them, that be all :D.
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05/17/2007 at 05:08
I remember All. I listened to them as far as Pummel. Why?
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05/17/2007 at 04:11
All?
NO! ALL! |
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05/17/2007 at 03:12
Indeed, BR has usual had an odd song that sticks out from the rest of the album, which further perplexed me when people shat their pants about honest goodbye after hearing heroes and martyrs.
I dunno see what the huge deal is with MxPx is at all. Anyone remember ALL? |
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05/17/2007 at 02:37
"Fuck thesaurus punx.?
Fuck the term "punx." What can be expected? It seems most comments left on punknews.org's BR articles are generally negative and at least one person has to make a Greg web cam joke. |
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05/17/2007 at 01:52
Those comments on Punknews are ridiculous. Have a little open-mindedness for christ's sake.
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05/17/2007 at 01:46
I think with the new collaboration with the Grammy-nominated producer Joe Barresi (Tool, Queens of the Stone Age, Weezer) is a great factor about the new sound of the album. That why Honest goodbye sounds like that. Eacc BR'S albums have a song very different then the basical beat of Wickerman's drum. Even with Bobby Schayer, BR had this kinda "Unique song" in the setlist's album.
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05/17/2007 at 01:07
Honest Goodbye isn't my favorite BR song ever by a long shot, but it grew on me pretty fast and I think it's a decent song. As for the aggressive sound that most of us think BR ought to have, those of us who have heard Heroes and Martyrs know we won't be let down.
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05/17/2007 at 01:05
My first was impression was...No thanks, I'll take Heroes and Martyrs instead. But then considering that I have not stopped listening to Honest Goodbye since it came out, I totally love it now. At about 3 minutes, I think it's too short though. I could stand another verse or maybe an riptastic bridge. But whatever, it is a fuckin sweet song!
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05/17/2007 at 00:50
first post. I agree with the poster, Honest Goodbye is a great step forward, I'm excited to hear the new album.
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