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Allentown setlist:
Philadelphia setlist:
Check out more pictures here.
Just wanted to add a few snippets from after the Allentown Show as Struck a Nerve has covered the actual show very well:
Hetson, Wackerman and Bentley were just outside the venue after the show and so I got to hang with them for a bit which was cool.
Hetson didn't say much and pulled the most awful pose for the photograph I got with him (how do you put photos in here btw or in the forum section?).
I don't always trust what Hetson says though as when I met him in the UK a few years back he said that the whole band got to choose what set-list they would play at each show but then 20 minutes later Jay told me that this was not the case and that it was Greg who chose the final set-list as he was the one who had to sing the songs.
Brooks was as cool and chatty as ever and gave the fans a lot of time. He knew the other band that I had come over to see, The Wildhearts, as he had supported for them on a tour when he was in Suicidal Tendencies. The pic I got of him was really cool as something on his t-shirt is shining and it is right over his heart area.
I cannot emphasise just how cool Jay Bentley is. He took about 1.5 hours out after the show to chat to the group of fans that were still hanging around outside the venue. He let me give him a piggy back for the photo that I got of him.
Jay spoke about his kids and his ex-wife. He said he was married to her for 18 years but it just wasn't working what with his commitment to the band for tours. He said that his wife felt like a young single mum who couldn't date any guys. He said that the break-up was inevitable but for the best and that they are still good friends today (Jay also said that it was fine for me to post all of this by the way in case anyone is thinking I am out of order for mentioning it).
When I met Jay back in 2005 he had said that when BR retire they would like to do a retirement tour where they would play each song of every album. He wasn't sure if many fans would turn up for the NS show though. I said that there are more fans out there that really like the album then you might think but he still said that he personally wasn't very proud of that album and that it was rushed out due to a contractual obligation at the time.
I asked him about the set-list choices and he still said it was Greg that had the final say but thought the set list they played tonight was pretty sick (definitely agreed). He said that there are many songs that he knows the fans want to hear but that Greg Graffin is just not able to sing them because his voice cannot hit the notes. He said that they cannot drop their guitars any lower than they are already as the music will just sound too wrong. I asked about songs from Suffer and he said Greg could still probably sing most of those.
I asked if they would ever play Shattered Faith live and he laughed and said no way - that's an Offspring song you know.
He said that when choosing the set list Greg has to try and think what songs the fans want to hear also and also appeal to the newer younger fans that the band picks up and this may mean playing the usual ones that have been played to death (21st Century, Infected, American Jesus etc).
We asked about where Graffin was and Jay said Greg always leaves the show as soon as he can after the gig for some reason and usually drives to the show in his own car too.
Jay confirmed that they would be playing Australia in November and that the band cannot believe that they are going to be doing a tour out there but that they are looking forward to it.
He also confirmed the European Tour next year late Spring time apparently but also mentioned something about another North American Tour or American Tour (sorry, I can't quite remember that bit). [Note: Jay is most likely referring to the West Coast tour they're planning early next year.]
At one point Jay disappeared onto the BR tour bus and the door was open and so this other fan and I peeked our head in round the corner and then we went on and Jay was cool and didn?t get funny about us being on the bus. He offered us some sweets ? one was like a maltesea which was nice and the other was a coconut thing which was horrible. There were big TVs and comfy couches in the first room off the bus. The rest of the bus we didn?t get to see as the door was closed and Jay said the other band members were in there trying to sleep.
Brian Baker came out and spoke for a bit and was as cool and humble as ever. He and Jay signed my ticket for the show which was nice.
We then said our goodbyes and went our own ways. The other fan I was with had a brother who was an Astronaught and he was trying to get Jay to come down to see his launch later in the week. There was another fan (sorry guys for forgetting your names) who had the Suffer tattoo on the top bit of his arm and it looked awesome.
Think that is pretty much all I remember. Thanks for reading
Thanks to Count for this news!
Philadelphia setlist:
Check out more pictures here.
Just wanted to add a few snippets from after the Allentown Show as Struck a Nerve has covered the actual show very well:
Hetson, Wackerman and Bentley were just outside the venue after the show and so I got to hang with them for a bit which was cool.
Hetson didn't say much and pulled the most awful pose for the photograph I got with him (how do you put photos in here btw or in the forum section?).
I don't always trust what Hetson says though as when I met him in the UK a few years back he said that the whole band got to choose what set-list they would play at each show but then 20 minutes later Jay told me that this was not the case and that it was Greg who chose the final set-list as he was the one who had to sing the songs.
Brooks was as cool and chatty as ever and gave the fans a lot of time. He knew the other band that I had come over to see, The Wildhearts, as he had supported for them on a tour when he was in Suicidal Tendencies. The pic I got of him was really cool as something on his t-shirt is shining and it is right over his heart area.
I cannot emphasise just how cool Jay Bentley is. He took about 1.5 hours out after the show to chat to the group of fans that were still hanging around outside the venue. He let me give him a piggy back for the photo that I got of him.
Jay spoke about his kids and his ex-wife. He said he was married to her for 18 years but it just wasn't working what with his commitment to the band for tours. He said that his wife felt like a young single mum who couldn't date any guys. He said that the break-up was inevitable but for the best and that they are still good friends today (Jay also said that it was fine for me to post all of this by the way in case anyone is thinking I am out of order for mentioning it).
When I met Jay back in 2005 he had said that when BR retire they would like to do a retirement tour where they would play each song of every album. He wasn't sure if many fans would turn up for the NS show though. I said that there are more fans out there that really like the album then you might think but he still said that he personally wasn't very proud of that album and that it was rushed out due to a contractual obligation at the time.
I asked him about the set-list choices and he still said it was Greg that had the final say but thought the set list they played tonight was pretty sick (definitely agreed). He said that there are many songs that he knows the fans want to hear but that Greg Graffin is just not able to sing them because his voice cannot hit the notes. He said that they cannot drop their guitars any lower than they are already as the music will just sound too wrong. I asked about songs from Suffer and he said Greg could still probably sing most of those.
I asked if they would ever play Shattered Faith live and he laughed and said no way - that's an Offspring song you know.
He said that when choosing the set list Greg has to try and think what songs the fans want to hear also and also appeal to the newer younger fans that the band picks up and this may mean playing the usual ones that have been played to death (21st Century, Infected, American Jesus etc).
We asked about where Graffin was and Jay said Greg always leaves the show as soon as he can after the gig for some reason and usually drives to the show in his own car too.
Jay confirmed that they would be playing Australia in November and that the band cannot believe that they are going to be doing a tour out there but that they are looking forward to it.
He also confirmed the European Tour next year late Spring time apparently but also mentioned something about another North American Tour or American Tour (sorry, I can't quite remember that bit). [Note: Jay is most likely referring to the West Coast tour they're planning early next year.]
At one point Jay disappeared onto the BR tour bus and the door was open and so this other fan and I peeked our head in round the corner and then we went on and Jay was cool and didn?t get funny about us being on the bus. He offered us some sweets ? one was like a maltesea which was nice and the other was a coconut thing which was horrible. There were big TVs and comfy couches in the first room off the bus. The rest of the bus we didn?t get to see as the door was closed and Jay said the other band members were in there trying to sleep.
Brian Baker came out and spoke for a bit and was as cool and humble as ever. He and Jay signed my ticket for the show which was nice.
We then said our goodbyes and went our own ways. The other fan I was with had a brother who was an Astronaught and he was trying to get Jay to come down to see his launch later in the week. There was another fan (sorry guys for forgetting your names) who had the Suffer tattoo on the top bit of his arm and it looked awesome.
Think that is pretty much all I remember. Thanks for reading
Thanks to Count for this news!
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11/05/2007 at 11:37
makes me tingle in my jibblets!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The most brilliantly amazingestest album ever!
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11/05/2007 at 00:04
wow, exact same set lists 2 nights in a row (probably more like 4 or 5 nights in a row) ...this is why I don't feel so bad when I miss a bad religion show anymore. in 2000, for the "New America" tour they played a much MUCH more diverse set. This just isn't exciting anymore...
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11/03/2007 at 21:31
Why does everyone hate coconut candy?
i like it =/ |
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11/02/2007 at 02:38
many thanks for the youtube link RatGuy
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11/01/2007 at 11:18
1. I would come to the NS show. No Substance is amongst my top 5 BR albums.
2. "Stick it in my eye", well... nah, I wouldn't. "Stickin' in my eye" is the proper title. 3. And though the Offspring made that song years before BR did theirs, I prefer Shattered Faith over The kids... any day! Who I'm replying too, I forget. So, if you feel hit, be so. |
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11/01/2007 at 05:15
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJwo6-xxKJk
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11/01/2007 at 05:12
hey guys i have never heard shattered faith can someone please upload it for me in mp3 format?
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10/31/2007 at 16:48
That was awesome. Made my day. Thanks for sharing.
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10/31/2007 at 14:02
I know another song. New america also sounds a lot like "kids in america" from Kim Wilde. the part "we're the kids in america, whoaoh" is very similar to "we are the new america whoaoh" and some other guy said the verse was like the beegees's "tragedy"
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10/31/2007 at 13:10
Count, you are right, coconut is gross
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10/31/2007 at 10:17
Thanks guys and yeah Jay, it was lucky that they had a bin on board for me to spit the coconut (yuck) sweet into! :-p
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10/31/2007 at 04:16
Thanks for the info guys, I'll give those songs a listen.
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10/31/2007 at 04:02
Haha! Sweet little review!
The on bus "sweets" coverage was most entertaining! |
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10/31/2007 at 02:15
I love Offspring and Bad Religion. BUt shattered faith /kids aren't alright stuff annoyes me. Why they don't play it??? and why not with offsprung
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10/31/2007 at 01:55
the songs are that eatyourdog was talking about are
Hear It= No way By the adolescents Epiphany=Stick it in my eye nofx and no control has pretty much the same chords as "The Prisoner" By Doa |
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10/31/2007 at 00:30
Creighton- listen to the Offspring's "The kids are alright" it's VERY similar guitars..Jay HATES that song...he even said that when they were recording it he went out and bought the Offsprings album and played that song for hte band.
On a Side note..the song "Hear it" is VERY similar to an adolescents song(forget which one). The intro the Epiphany is also an intro to a NOFX song(forget which one) and The song No Control is not original Music either. RatGuy has more info on that stuff. |
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10/31/2007 at 00:29
Oh, and thanks to Count for the article, very interesting to read ;) I really hope some of the guys will be round hanging out when they come over to the UK!
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10/31/2007 at 00:26
Creighton, they are referring to the strong similarities between Shattered Faith and the Offspring song The Kids Aren't Alright. The chorus of Shattered Faith is very, very similar to the chorus of Kids Aren't Alright. Have a listen and you will hear it pretty clearly!
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10/31/2007 at 00:09
I know when Mike first interviewed Jay he said that the song 'Shattered Faith' had no real meaning and that's why it was left off the record...but did we know that it was an Offspring song? What does that mean anyway? Is he picking fun, or did the Offspring write it for them?
On the Offspring's DVD they mention writing a song for Bad Religion a while back but Brett refused it. (Shattered Faith wasn't it though.) The Offspring later used the same tune for their song 'All I Want.' |
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10/30/2007 at 23:27
Mr. A, I like yours differents ideas of setlists! BTW, this is a good story to read. Im asking when BR gonna be retire... LIke Greg said on ALong the way Video, BR gonna play until They will be old and fat and cannot be on stage... WHEN???
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10/30/2007 at 22:53
great story, thank you. I enjoyed reading it. I don't really care if they play different songs or not. But I really hope they'll record another "tested" record with songs from 98-07. I love that album.
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10/30/2007 at 22:04
...while Brian was drumming.
"When BR retire they would like to do a retirement tour where they would play each song of every album. He wasn't sure if many fans would turn up for the NS show though." Maybe it would be more exciting for the band and the fans if BR wouldn't play complete albums per night, but, say, a string of 5 or so songs of one album leading to songs of another one. And then changing the songs of the respective albums after several shows. Anyway, that would mean a hell of a lot of rehearsals... And I REALLY hope Brett will be able to take a couple of months off for the very last Bad Religion tour. I'd love to see him one last time performing with the band, everything else would feel kind of, well, incomplete for me. But not yet. I'd be fine with another studio album. |
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10/30/2007 at 21:35
Graffin played the Graffin? :O
Seriously though, I just loooooove stuff like that, like when Greg played guitar on Pessimistic Lines and let Mr. A sing instead. |
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10/30/2007 at 21:34
Wow, thanks loads for taking the time to post all this. Very insightful. :)
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10/30/2007 at 21:32
random fact:
When BR played in El Paso, Texas on sept 30 this year, graffin played the Graffin went straight for the drums and brooks got on the mic for the beginning of Fuck Armageddon. |
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10/30/2007 at 20:54
Awesome story dude, for realz
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10/30/2007 at 20:30
Great review and thanks for the story! It truely was a great show!!!!
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10/30/2007 at 20:27
Europe and Sweden now please !
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