Why is Arcade Fire on this list?
No no.. this doesn't add up at all!

I realize some of you hate it but, daniel418 has been right for the most part. Most those numbers are only different now because of time span.
Hey does anyone know when Bad Religion is coming back to Germany after those 3 dates?

guy below me is an idiot... And he isn't even funny..

Daniel, cut out your homophobia dude, some of us BR fans are gay....
I don't get offended but think of your fellow man, or something.

First of all... Gold is not that good when boring bands like nirvana and janes addiction and gay ass' chris daughtry are all multi platinum selling 50 million records. Second I agree party with pcgamer it doesn't have as much to do with record sales as it has to do with the majority of fans seeing them but also... I believe in my opinion Brett is a little bitter about songs he was not involved with also, I know this first hand small labels and major labels do it... If u read in the interview Atlantic records gave BR a deadline to finish no substance and in cntract they have to play certain songs off those records at some point in their set. Right when they went back to epitaph they stopped playing new America and no substance all together... So I think that they just don't like those records at all which u gotta give them credit if that's the case cuz they play what they want, but man I love strange denial and shades of truth and track 16 from NS track 1 TNA I wanna c live

I already reported this to you on this site about 2 months ago. It was on the punknews.org site. old news.

Tommy, you also need to take into account what the majority of the fans like and what songs everyone can like. They don't play songs from No Substance because that album's reception wasn't very well with BR fans. I love the album and it's my second favorite, but a lot of "hardcore" BR fans would put it near the end of their list. BR knows this and for that reason they don't play the songs. This is also why BR still plays songs from HCHBAW, like Part III, We're Only Gonna Die, and Fuck Armageddon. It just depends on what they think the majority of the fans like and that's how they choose their setlist. I really don't think it has to do with record sales as much as what I said.

deathpiggie. are you there?

Gold is good. I am just very interested in record sales because I want to know if there is a link between not selling well ( like no substance) and not playing songs of it. In my opinion Bad Religion should judge their music by songs and not by albums.

You're right, gold status is totally shit [sarcasm].

You're right, gold status is totally shit [sarcasm].

You're right, gold status is totally shit [sarcasm].

Lol love this! Nofx blows man all punk has shit sales gold is the best even the greatest punk bands can do... Offspring is the only exception but they aren't punk they are just fast paced so fuck it but hey i would like to see some of you guys at the show so I can blow you the fuck up in the pit... I'll he there 28-29 in anahiem

Is this the one where you said Punk in Drublic didn't even sell 500k then I found a picture of the gold version of it proving that they did? God I'm such an idiot...

www.indiehq.net is one source they will show you a ton of bands... U can google most information and btw to the idiot who said punk in drublic sold 1,000,000 I told him not even close then he put a link up and said "yeah I beg to differ" your an idiot! At the link you sent it states clearly punk in drublic was nofx "first gold record" gold means 500,000 scans you moron so guess what I am afraid they did not... Also more record sales info at wikipunkrecords.net or .com. (try googling bad religion record sales) you won't get everything I've tries... Only vague numbers

The second link is ok

I stand corrected. Asshole comment proven just.
Google "new american" 61,000 bad religion and the source will come up. It's probably sold more than that by now(it was 6 years ago), but according to Bently, New America sold 61k(I have no idea during what timespan. The first year perhaps?).

Great danielr0418, give me a link to a single source of your information on BR record sales. Just one source that says the New America has sold 61,000 copies.

The second link doesn't work for me. It shows me a server error.

no, you click in continue to download, and after there will be "click 2 more times to download" and continues click, and you will download

greg: that website was confusing, how do i download? do i have to register somewhere?

yeah thank you tommy and I agree those numbers have changed I mean its been a while I'm sure all the numbers have increased over time... Bottom line I love bad religion they make me complete... Hey did u guys notice some of bentlys bass lines n the new album he actually adds a Loy of sick lil rifs listen to before you die and dearly beloved especially

yeah thank you tommy and I agree those numbers have changed I mean its been a while I'm sure all the numbers have increased over time... Bottom line I love bad religion they make me complete... Hey did u guys notice some of bentlys bass lines n the new album he actually adds a Loy of sick lil rifs listen to before you die and dearly beloved especially

who gives a toss how many sales each album made, what of it?

thanks for the show "greg". I really enjoyed honest goodbye

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hey danielr0418, I found the article where jay says New America sold 61000. So maybe I should have believed you. But he said that in 2002, so maybe it's more today.

To clear up your questions W! I said all the ones I knew and I found out about most of them from bad religion interviews and sales charts from sound scan interviews and chart numbers from indie hq and other interviews/reviews I haven't seen pob tesf American numbers only worldwide n I said I was unclear of no substance new maps of hell I am certain as well as pob and tesf worldwide and of suffer how could hell and new America

I can not read the comment of daniel04-something without getting the voice of Vicky Pollard of Little Britain stuck in my head. If you dont know who Im talking about, I would like to recommend a little thing called youtube to you. "So shut up!!"

you guys are fucking morons jay bently specifically said in an interview posted on this page the new America sold 61,000 copies no substance sold even less!! Indiehq tells all record sales for the united states on indie labels u fuck faces the American billboards has records of tesf stranger than fiction and new maps of hell so shut up!!! There are sources all over the web

So Feist won it. It's a good album. So is Neon Bible and Sound of Silver. As a BR fan I like them being in the running. As a BR fan, I completely understand them not getting any further than the long list based solely on NMoH.

The only way to know for sure is to ask someone with access to SoundScan which supplies the data which makes the Billboard charts. That database can tell you sales for all BR records in the USA and Canada, but not internationally.
If anyone knows anyone at a record label (are you listening, Brett?) then find out. I'd be fascinated to heard about BR's sales figures...

Thank you for those numbers danielr0418. But what are your sources? I have to agree with Adam that I find it hard to believe NS and TNA sold so bad. And do you have any info on NS and TNA worldwide? and POB and TESF in the USA? And do you know something about generator?

danielr0418 - I'm afraid it did: http://www.nofxwiki.net/ wiki/images/9/9d/Punk_in_drublik_gold2.jpg

Those numbers have been pulled completely out of your ass. Give me the tiniest bit of proof that No Substance sold between 40-80 thousands copies or that the New America sold 61,000 copies. I guarantee they both sold well over 100,000 in the US like every Bad Religion record in recent memory. If New America sold 61K copies, it wouldn't keep getting re-printed and you sure as fuck wouldn't find it in your record store. From what I understand and from what I have read countless times is that they typically sold between 200,000 and 400,000 copies of their albums (with STF being the exception).

P.S. Punk inndrublic didnt even sell 500k and throught out there careers nofx has always sold about 40% of what bad religion could sell... Only other punk band who has good numbers is social distortion sex love and rock was there first gold record

I'm ubsessed with looking up record sales so I'll tell you the ones I know
How could hell be any worse sold 10,000 in its first week n peaked at nearly 40k
Suffer broke records making BR the best selling punk band of that time sold 210,000 records
No control and against the grain I don't know
Recipe for hate was there first record to sell over 300k
stranger Than fiction Sold almost immidiatly went gold with that record selling 500k records
The gray race dramatically declined selling only 250,000 records
No substance sold tween 40-80 k records
The new America sold 61k records
Then back to epitaph to once again bring them to life selling 400k worldwide
(keep in mind you only become gold or platinum selling 500k or 1 mil. In u.s.)
the release of the empire strikes first (worldwide) 500k albums
New maps of hell by november 2007 in the u.s. They sold 80k records, world wide 667,000
In 2008 theyre entire collection including best odd has sold 11 million worldwide

punk in drublic took a lot longer to reach that than new maps of hell has been out for. and recipe for hate and stranger than fictoin have most definitely sold over 100,000

really? thats alot less than i thought. NOFX - Punk In Drublic has sold over a million.

I thought: suffer, no control, against the grain between 100000-200000, recipe 250000? stf 550000. those are my guessings, coz jay said they doubled their fanbase with stf. from the gray race it went down. and the pob sold more than TNA and TESF even more than POB. But I am sure I'm wrong about everything haha

I don't think any of them have broken 100K. (crying quietly to myself)

does anyone how much each album sold?

whoops

read it again ... says they're being nominated because they *haven't* yet sold that many copies of the record.

Wow, I wasn't aware they sold that much. Haven't done that since STF, nice!