they announced on kroq this morning that bad religion is playing weenie roast at verizon wireless may 17th along with offspring metallica rise against pennywise and more

br are playing the 2008 kroq weenie roast this year the lineup is a lot better

Waves are wavy.

Who cares about waves? Apparently everyone but you?
I think br would be in the 2nd wave, not 3rd I believe only 3 waves exist.. the 4th IE blink isnt punk..never was, its what br is now. Indie/rock.
I think br would be 2nd wave
and def the godfathers of punk.. as greg mentioned :P
there are WAVES people.. just look at emo now and then.. sheesh

This is just a punk wave song...

Because we're cool?

and we should give a shit about waves of punk because...

you could say there were a million "waves" of punk but it doesnt really mean anything either way

Wanderlei Silva beats Jardine May 24th

Dead Kennedys are 2nd, right?

Bigbang, your 3rd wave of punk is more like the 4th wave of punk. id say the 3rd wave was more bands like Conflict, APPLE, Operation Ivy, and Final Conflict- Bands from 82-87

I believe bands like The Stooges or MC5 are rather labeled as proto-punk (along with The New York Dolls and Velvet Underground). That's because the term "punk" wasnt used at that time to describe those bands.
"Punk" was first used in an article in the mid-70's to describe bands like The Ramones, The Buzzcocks, The Damned, The Sex Pistols, etc, thus in my opinion these bands form the 1st wave of punk.
So, in my opinion :
1st wave = Ramones, Sex Pistols, Buzzcocks, The Clash, etc...
2nd wave = Black Flag, Minor Threat, Bad Brains, Circle Jerks, early Bad Religion
3rd wave = Bad Religion, Pennywise, NOFX, Rancid, even early Offspring or Green Day
4th wave = anything that came after that, may they be poppy bands like Blink-182 or Simple Plan, or hardcore bands like Rise Agaisnt and Raised Fist.
The greatest achievment of Bad Religion in punk music is that they paved the way for the 3rd wave in the late 80s and early 90s, when most of the bands from the 2nd wave broke up.

QUANDO V?O TOCAR EM PORTO ALEGRE?

Quando v?o tocar em PORTO ALEGRE?

1st- Stooges, MC5 2nd- Ramones, Weirdos, Sex Pistols, Damned 3rd- Black Flag, Bad Brains, Minor Threat, EARLY Bad Religion 4th- Suffer Era- BR, Operation Ivy, Cro-Mags, DRI, etc. 5th- Bad Religion (hitting popularity), Pennywise, etc. 6th- I don;t honesly believe punk has had a 6th wave....punk is whatever is challenging, new and exciting.....in my opinion that would be noise, drone, experimental stuff.....

I never understood those waves of punk. I thought it was 1st wave; 70's ramones etc.
second wave 80's BR, NOFX
third 94 Green Day, Offspring
fourth 99: sum41 and blink 182
Anyone with real answers?

maybe he stumbled on words. Ive spoken to greg about this and he said something I caught him saying on loveline or PI. "they are the godfathers of punk"
taking it from one era to the next.. transforming it. Not that they indeed created the concept of punk but they defined it in their own way.
Just what I got out of my convo with him. Godfathers of punk doesnt sound like fathers :P

I think the 1st wave was early 70's with bands like Iggy and the Stooges and Ramones; the 2nd wave was late 70's with bands like Sex Pistols, The Clash, Buzzcocks et al.

I could be wrong, though.

I thought the '80s was the start of the 2nd wave of punk. So when was the 1st and 2nd wave and which bands were at the forefront of respective waves?

Bad Religion is my second favorite band of all time but....invented punk? Do these guys have ANY, even a tiny, musical background? I've known since I was 16 that Bad Religion were part of the 3rd wave of punk.....and didn't become the powerhouse they are today until the 4th or 5th wave.

invented punk, eh? cmahn, at least get someone who knows what theyre talking about - it's harvard for christ's sake.

I'd like to meet the music critics who make these claims.