No problem. Been seeing shows there for over 15 years. Great little venue. Nice work on the recording.

[quote=bytheway]It's spelled Rivoli[/quote] Hey Thanks!

It's spelled Rivoli

and the Graffin show: [url]http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=327641[/url]

OK, Reseeds of my other BR recordings are up on Dime now as well: 2008.09.24 - "Revolution's Thunder" [url]http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=327480[/url] 2006.09.22 - "Patching All The Cracks On The Stage" [url]http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=327491[/url] I can't upload the Graffin show until those have been snatched at least once, so stay tuned.

[quote=Brett Religion]I wish all my live recordings had artwork like that... :S[/quote]Well, Brett, I can't say I can create artwork for every show out there (actually, where available I use the bootleg cover or poster artwork available on this site) but some time ago I did create a generic "bootleg" cover for use where applicable. If you are interested: [url]http://www.multiupload.com/SVHQPY953E[/url]

What ComicSans said, plus it's difficult to tell the difference with a decent enough mp3.

Lossless is usually provided as a flac file which can then be decoded (with any number of free programs) into the original .wav files. These are CD quality (or better) files, as opposed to mp3s which reduce file size by eliminating much of the sound data. So, basically, lossless are much larger files, but are the highest quality, "truest" version. Most people will agree that (particularly with amateur recordings) lossless sounds better, but ultimately it comes down to personal choice.

Can someone give me the quick and dirty on Lossless format vs. .mp3 and why I should be using it??? Thanks!

[quote=ComicSans][quote=Brett Religion]PS: BTW, are Toronto 2006 and 2008 available as lossless somewhere??[/quote]Yeah I have these in lossless, and can reupload, I also have Graffin's Toronto show fromt he Cold as the Clay tour as well, but that was my first recording, and it is a bit rough.[/quote]that would be great, I think I only the have Berlin show from the Clay tour

[quote=Robo Pilgrim][quote=Some Guy][quote=delirium-]How does it feel to have your bootleg on front page of badreligion.com? :P[/quote]I just noticed that too. Haha. Weird that the official site is advertising a bootleg. Do they just post everything we post or something?[/quote]I think any news item on here gets automatically put on there as well.[/quote]Exactly. That's the deal we made with Brett.

OK Lossless torrent is up on Dime: http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=327335

[quote=Some Guy][quote=delirium-]How does it feel to have your bootleg on front page of badreligion.com? :P[/quote]I just noticed that too. Haha. Weird that the official site is advertising a bootleg. Do they just post everything we post or something?[/quote] I guess I didn't really read the URL when this was posted. How surreal! Makes me wish I had a better screen name :( haha

[quote=Brett Religion]Kerosene, you should always visit the official site and Share/Like It all news items to support the band!!! :) Also, while you're at it, do the same here. That goes to everyone too. :D[/quote]Lol true, though I do plenty of 'marketing' for the band...actually I should cut back because I talk about them so much that my friends get tired of hearing about BR (if only they'd come around and share the same degree of love/obsession with BR as all of us do :p )

[quote=Robo Pilgrim][quote=Some Guy][quote=delirium-]How does it feel to have your bootleg on front page of badreligion.com? :P[/quote]I just noticed that too. Haha. Weird that the official site is advertising a bootleg. Do they just post everything we post or something?[/quote]I think any news item on here gets automatically put on there as well.[/quote]That's right. Kerosene, you should always visit the official site and Share/Like It all news items to support the band!!! :) Also, while you're at it, do the same here. That goes to everyone too. :D

[quote=Some Guy][quote=delirium-]How does it feel to have your bootleg on front page of badreligion.com? :P[/quote]I just noticed that too. Haha. Weird that the official site is advertising a bootleg. Do they just post everything we post or something?[/quote]I think any news item on here gets automatically put on there as well.

[quote=Some Guy][quote=delirium-]How does it feel to have your bootleg on front page of badreligion.com? :P[/quote]I just noticed that too. Haha. Weird that the official site is advertising a bootleg. Do they just post everything we post or something?[/quote]Am I the only one who doesn't hardly ever even visit the official site? This one is so much more organized, has the forums, The Answer, etc.

[quote=delirium-]How does it feel to have your bootleg on front page of badreligion.com? :P[/quote]I just noticed that too. Haha. Weird that the official site is advertising a bootleg. Do they just post everything we post or something?

LOL I listened to the show again at work today and I know what you are all talking about with the "Who Farted" lines. Hahaha the show began with a blank white backdrop, which they dropped to reveal the TDoM banner as soon as Brooks comes in with the drums on The Resist Stance. Greg was directing attention to the banner and saying "Wait for it..." just before that moment. Hope that clears things up!

[quote=ComicSans][quote=Brett Religion]PS: BTW, are Toronto 2006 and 2008 available as lossless somewhere??[/quote]Yeah I have these in lossless, and can reupload, I also have Graffin's Toronto show fromt he Cold as the Clay tour as well, but that was my first recording, and it is a bit rough.[/quote]Thanks a lot, man!! I'd really appreciate it if you could upload at least one of the Toronto shows and Graffin's Cold as the Clay show... delirium told me he could upload one of the Toronto shows too so you guys don't have to upload both. ;)

[quote=Jesse][quote=Kerosene Keeps Me...]on a more realistic level I'd just like some variation.[/quote]I think many people (especially on this site) would like to see some more variation, but I think it's impossible since they have to please everyone in the crowd; not only the 'hardcore' fans who are (in my opinion) often in the minority nowadays. The only thing they could do is having 3-4 completely different setlists and switch off between those every night (that's the only way people, who're going to multiple shows, won't hear the same set of songs every night).[/quote]I still like my idea of splitting it into two shows, kinda like a baseball doubleheader. And no one reacted to my awesome "Press 1" joke so I'm sad lol. But I wouldn't be against having a few different setlists, with a bunch of 'gonna be played' songs in between. Alk Trio does that I do get your point. I just think there's ways to please both types of fans. I get that Sorrow will always be played...but maybe switch things up and make it an opener...give me some source of wonder and expectation. One of my main gripes is that the encore itself is always the same. It's like how PW plays Bro Hymn, only BR plays a couple more songs each time. There are other songs that could be replaced too..they've been playing No Control the song a LOT, they've been playing the song Suffer a lot, etc

[quote=Kerosene Keeps Me...]on a more realistic level I'd just like some variation.[/quote]I think many people (especially on this site) would like to see some more variation, but I think it's impossible since they have to please everyone in the crowd; not only the 'hardcore' fans who are (in my opinion) often in the minority nowadays. The only thing they could do is having 3-4 completely different setlists and switch off between those every night (that's the only way people, who're going to multiple shows, won't hear the same set of songs every night).

[quote=nropevolI]La is burning is not played as often as Sorrow! But sometimes I ask myself, would most Bad Religion 'fans' be really angry if they didn't play [i]all[/i] the hits? I imagine something like rock am ring 04 would happen, when that german group of people in the audience sang "raise you voice", and they didn't play it. Sure they must have been somewhat dissapointed, but I'm sure they were happy with 'punk rock song".[/quote]Yeah unfortunately BR will probably never play that song, even in places where it was a 'hit' or people like it Agreed, nothing besides American Jesus (which had a 10 year headstart) gets played as much as Sorrow. I've raised that question too about whether Br fans would really be upset if all the hits weren't played..I say they wouldn't be..plus there are BR songs that are 'known' but don't get played..Hear It is one example It breaks my heart but in two more years when they come around, I'm going to scrutinize the setlist and might not go. It's bad enough that literally half the set is going to be the same as the last time I saw them. I do get greedy and lust for songs that clearly won't happen, but on a more realistic level I'd just like some variation.

La is burning is not played as often as Sorrow! But sometimes I ask myself, would most Bad Religion 'fans' be really angry if they didn't play [i]all[/i] the hits? I imagine something like rock am ring 04 would happen, when that german group of people in the audience sang "raise you voice", and they didn't play it. Sure they must have been somewhat dissapointed, but I'm sure they were happy with 'punk rock song".

[quote=jbonvillern]Flat Earth Society? This must just be coming back around. They NEVER used to play that.[/quote]I agree..this is one of the few that are different from the last time I saw them. For what it's worth it looks like they've been playing this one for this tour/shows earlier in the year.[quote]As far as Los Angleles... goes they DID NOT play it when I say them in '07 in DC. They did play Man on a mission in '04 in Orlando. NICE. You do not always hear A Walk or Recipie for Hate at a live show. I have not heard No Direction played at a show since '94.[/quote]Interesting. I got RfH last time. No Direction is cool. They've been playing Man with a Mission a LOT lately. But that's cool. See my big desire is for more varied sets..every encore is always Sorrow..switch it up, play like Man with a Mission then My Poor Friend Me, or something, anything different. Make me NOT use that time for bathroom/beer/merch break, lol[quote]The rest is standard fare. The New Maps songs on this list are the good ones.[/quote]Ehh respecfully disagree, they're good, but I think there's better ones.[quote]I am sick of Sorrow as an encore, but can't stop playing it on my guitar anyway. I would enjoy Cease as the finale if done full bore. It would have been nice to see them at NYC playing only the early stuff. Does anyone have that setlist? The best BR albums are: Suffer, No Control, Recipie for Hate, Process of Belief, Empire Strikes First and Gray Race (honorable mention). [/quote]Yes, someone agrees with me on Cease!!! But no Against the Grain? Blasphemy! :p

Holy crap, they played Avalon and Meeting of the Minds!!! My two favorite off of TDoM!!! ^__^ Haha, lol @ the rush covers! How cute!

[quote=Anders]I don't mean to complain, but why not put this up as a .torrent?[/quote]I'll be putting up a lossless torrent as soon as I can

[quote=HugeFanOfBadReligion][quote=Kerosene Keeps Me...]In my dream world, BR has two shows on the same day (I would be fine if each was 15 songs or whatever to make it fairer to the band hehe). Matinee for the people that scream for Sorrow and listen to Paramore and all inexplicably wear Converse shoes..you know..to 'show their individuality'. Then a later show for the fans who really appreciate beautiful songs like Dream of Unity and punk classics like In the Night[/quote] I agree. But they'd need to have a trivia thing upon purchasing tickets so there aren't the people who only know the songs like Sorrow. When was the last BR show where Sorrow, Infected, or Los Angeles is Burning wasn't played? For the encore at that show, I was hoping for a good song that would make the ending of the show exciting and memorable, but instead I got Infected, LAIB, and Sorrow.[/quote] If only it wasn't for wanting my more casual listener friend who's going with me to see a whole BR show, and my principle of not leaving things I bought tickets for until they're over (pet peeve is when people leave ballgames before the last out or even inning happens). If it wasn't for those things I would honestly just leave early and beat the terrible parking at the lame venue that they exclusively come to in my city. As it is the encore is likely to be either a beer break or when I buy up merch like the good little fan I am [quote]But they'd need to have a trivia thing upon purchasing tickets so there aren't the people who only know the songs like Sorrow.[/quote] Good point. And I can see it: Press 1 if you're a hipster d-bag that only knows popular lyrics because "all those other albums were meh" but "I really hope they play Sorrow, that's the best", you get tickets to the matinee for the popular songs Press 2 if your bedtime is after 8:00 pm [quote]When was the last BR show where Sorrow, Infected, or Los Angeles is Burning wasn't played?[/quote] Probably the ones right before LA started being played live..but there was always Digital Boy or American Jesus to put in that slot. Someone brought up the point elsewhere that it makes sense that BR would add songs to the repetoire as they made more songs (in other words, American Jesus got played almost if not every show after it came out...so would Sorrow and more current classics). But my response then and now is that BR has SO much good material..please surprise us, give us some wonderment and enchantment..there are SO many good BR songs and so many faithful BR fans

[quote=Kerosene Keeps Me...]In my dream world, BR has two shows on the same day (I would be fine if each was 15 songs or whatever to make it fairer to the band hehe). Matinee for the people that scream for Sorrow and listen to Paramore and all inexplicably wear Converse shoes..you know..to 'show their individuality'. Then a later show for the fans who really appreciate beautiful songs like Dream of Unity and punk classics like In the Night[/quote] I agree. But they'd need to have a trivia thing upon purchasing tickets so there aren't the people who only know the songs like Sorrow. When was the last BR show where Sorrow, Infected, or Los Angeles is Burning wasn't played? For the encore at that show, I was hoping for a good song that would make the ending of the show exciting and memorable, but instead I got Infected, LAIB, and Sorrow.

[quote=SOLDSHORT][quote=HugeFanOfBadReligion][quote=SOLDSHORT]do they not mosh in canada?[/quote] What is this mosh you speak of?[quote=Guns]Thanks a lot! great concert, Sorrow was amazing! everybody singing..I know what a lot of people think, bit I think sorrow is the perfect song to end[/quote] I enjoyed Sorrow, but I wanted to punch the kid beside me in the face. He was a total douche throughout the show, didn't know any of the words at all, but then in the triple encore of all the well known songs that a Justin Bieber fan would know, what do you know, he was singing along. Actually, I don't think he knew Infected, but he knew the other two.[/quote]i want to punch people that yell for sorrow to be played the whole show...[/quote]I want to give them a lifetime ban from BR shows and make it so they can only watch it at Warped Tour, where that song is guaranteed to be played anyway. It's those fans that ruin pickrset by voting in numbers for Sorrow and American Jesus...yeah..like BR AREN'T gonna play those live when you see them..smh. Then again the setlist at Warped Tour is basically becoming "the dozen song encore/staples" that BR "has to play" at the live shows, so there's some overlap I guess. In my dream world, BR has two shows on the same day (I would be fine if each was 15 songs or whatever to make it fairer to the band hehe). Matinee for the people that scream for Sorrow and listen to Paramore and all inexplicably wear Converse shoes..you know..to 'show their individuality'. Then a later show for the fans who really appreciate beautiful songs like Dream of Unity and punk classics like In the Night

[quote=HugeFanOfBadReligion][quote=SOLDSHORT]do they not mosh in canada?[/quote] What is this mosh you speak of?[quote=Guns]Thanks a lot! great concert, Sorrow was amazing! everybody singing..I know what a lot of people think, bit I think sorrow is the perfect song to end[/quote] I enjoyed Sorrow, but I wanted to punch the kid beside me in the face. He was a total douche throughout the show, didn't know any of the words at all, but then in the triple encore of all the well known songs that a Justin Bieber fan would know, what do you know, he was singing along. Actually, I don't think he knew Infected, but he knew the other two.[/quote]i want to punch people that yell for sorrow to be played the whole show...

I don't mean to complain, but why not put this up as a .torrent? sites like Rapidshare sucks, and they are so.. 10 years ago.. with bittorrent basically giving endless bandwidth , who would pay a monthly fee on a site like that? Good job on the cover, btw.

[quote=Man.With.A.Mission]Where is Brett in the video??[/quote] Is that sarcasm? If it's not, then I should inform you that unless the show is close to his home, Brett will not attend the show. Nowadays, Brett is mostly just involved in the writing and recording process along with running the band, he doesn't have much to do with the live music.

Where is Brett in the video??

Just a stupid question, but I m looking for the fonts they used on the Dissent of man title and cover. The ones on the bootleg are really similar, so i m asking : what are the names of the fonts ?? thanx for your help and thanx for the bootleg !!!

[quote=Brett Religion]PS: BTW, are Toronto 2006 and 2008 available as lossless somewhere??[/quote]Yeah I have these in lossless, and can reupload, I also have Graffin's Toronto show fromt he Cold as the Clay tour as well, but that was my first recording, and it is a bit rough.

How does it feel to have your bootleg on front page of badreligion.com? :P

[quote=keevhren]What field recorder did you use? Sounds great for a bootleg![/quote][quote=Info.doc]Zoom H2 > WAV > Audacity (EQ) > WAV > xACT > FLAC[/quote]Thanks a lot, ComicSans!!!!! Very good quality and awesome artwork!! I wish all my live recordings had artwork like that... :S (Newly created) Award for Taper of the Month well earned well earned. Congratulations! :) PS: BTW, are Toronto 2006 and 2008 available as lossless somewhere??

Awesome, thanks!

What field recorder did you use? Sounds great for a bootleg!

Thansk for the kind comments everybody![quote=che sus]awesome work comic sans! Btw you recorded the Toronto 2006 show didnt you? GJ there aswell![/quote]Yes, and also the 2008 show, but this is my first with a proper field recorder, so the quality is much better.[quote=badrelgnsf]woah who made the art? Clay? AWESOME JOB BRO! this is great! Mighty nice for homebrew mate[/quote]Thanks. I am a professional graphic designer though, haha so matching the album art shouldn't be that bad! Glad everyone likes!

that's some really good artwork! downloading right now..

- BEFORE YOU DIE!!!! -Y E E E E E H A A W W ! ! !

[quote=Robo Pilgrim][quote=I'm Against It]They don't wanna get hurt cuz they know that their shitty excuse for health care won't cover any sort of injury they might get. [/quote]Because if something's free it must be shit![/quote]Yes, now your catching on. Welcome to capitalism.

[quote=SOLDSHORT]do they not mosh in canada?[/quote] What is this mosh you speak of?[quote=Guns]Thanks a lot! great concert, Sorrow was amazing! everybody singing..I know what a lot of people think, bit I think sorrow is the perfect song to end[/quote] I enjoyed Sorrow, but I wanted to punch the kid beside me in the face. He was a total douche throughout the show, didn't know any of the words at all, but then in the triple encore of all the well known songs that a Justin Bieber fan would know, what do you know, he was singing along. Actually, I don't think he knew Infected, but he knew the other two.

if you take away the new songs from this setlist... what you have is a "wtf play something different" setlist.

Wwhy avalon, meeting of the minds? In the new cd, they're a lot of best songs. I think I can make a better setlist xD!

I'm partial to CEASE, Dream of Unity, Broken, I Won't Say Anything...SOMETHING different...their is zero mystery in the encore...everyone knows it's going to be Sorrow. The only suspense is whether the other songs will be Infected then LA is Burning, or LA is Burning then Infected. Yes I'm exaggerating a little but my point stands

[quote=jruss185][quote=Guns]Thanks a lot! great concert, Sorrow was amazing! everybody singing..I know what a lot of people think, bit I think sorrow is the perfect song to end[/quote]couldn't agree more...sorrow is definitely the best song to end on![/quote]NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

That's some fantastic artwork!

[quote=jruss185][quote=Guns]Thanks a lot! great concert, Sorrow was amazing! everybody singing..I know what a lot of people think, bit I think sorrow is the perfect song to end[/quote]couldn't agree more...sorrow is definitely the best song to end on![/quote]I'm partial to "Along The Way"

[quote=Guns]Thanks a lot! great concert, Sorrow was amazing! everybody singing..I know what a lot of people think, bit I think sorrow is the perfect song to end[/quote]couldn't agree more...sorrow is definitely the best song to end on!

woah who made the art? Clay? AWESOME JOB BRO! this is great! Mighty nice for homebrew mate what did you record with? (seems canada ROCKS THE HOUSE!) and rush covers rock! seems like you had a blast and the guys look up ON it ooff arted' hahaha great stuff again cheers PS please put this on a shirt! its made for BR CHEERS!x3

Thanks a lot! great concert, Sorrow was amazing! everybody singing..I know what a lot of people think, bit I think sorrow is the perfect song to end

Wow, that artwork looks great! Excellent work.

Did Greg ask "Who farted?" at the beginning of Resist Stance?

Didnt like the TDoM background... the older ones (like from TPoB, TESF, TNMoH) were far more creative. btw, all TDoM artwork - i dont know why, serously - but, it resembles Generator artwork, at least for me... looks like they're suffering from a serious lack of creativeness... at least five or six songs from this new album sounds like other old songs... they're finally getting old. Ah, and the artwork of this bootleg looks really greater than the album artwork...

Loooooved the cymbals on 'Sinister Rouge'!!! ,,/,

awesome work comic sans! Btw you recorded the Toronto 2006 show didnt you? GJ there aswell!

*pinches I'm Against It's cheeks* adorable.

awesome, thanks dude!

[quote=I'm Against It]They don't wanna get hurt cuz they know that their shitty excuse for health care won't cover any sort of injury they might get. [/quote]Because if something's free it must be shit!

[quote=SOLDSHORT]do they not mosh in canada?[/quote]They don't wanna get hurt cuz they know that their shitty excuse for health care won't cover any sort of injury they might get.

[quote=SOLDSHORT]do they not mosh in canada?[/quote]They're far too polite for those kind of shenanigans.

do they not mosh in canada?

Thanks very much ComicSans. Such a great show.

i like the sound, too bad the flat earth society solo sounds butchered lol.

nice cover !