Some people are almost impossible to live with
Some people have faith in the craziest things
They follow outdated conventions that were recorded
But most of it to me all sounds insane
Maybe that's what you need to get you through the night
Maybe you've seen the light
But you know that popular consensus doesn't make it right
Nothing can go on while forever increasing
The universe expanding is a different thing
But to turn a nasty habit into a virtue
Can't replace the need for charity
Maybe it's what you need to help you through the night
Maybe you've seen the light
But you know popular consensus doesn't make it right
Like the seed of all creation or a doomsday scheme
The future might be bright or bleak
But you know popular consensus doesn't mean much to me
Version | Length | Release | Catalog ID | Country | Format | Year |
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Album version | ||||||
1:53 | True North | United States | 12" | 2022 | ||
1:53 | 30 Years Live | Europe | 12" | 2016 | ||
1:53 | True North | EICP-1569 | Japan | CD | 2013 | |
1:53 | True North | United States | 12" | 2013 | ||
1:53 | True North | 7228-I | Europe | 12" | 2013 | |
1:53 | True North | Europe | 12" | 2013 | ||
1:53 | True North | United States | 12" | 2013 | ||
1:53 | True North | 87228-1 | United States | 12" | 2013 | |
1:53 | True North | Europe | 12" | 2013 | ||
1:53 | True North | EPIT 7228 | United States | CD | 2013 | |
1:53 | True North | 87228-2 | United States | CD | 2013 | |
1:53 | True North | 7228-2 | Europe | CD | 2013 | |
1:53 | True North | 87228-2P | United States | CD | 2013 | |
1:53 | True North | 059 | United States | CD | 2013 | |
1:53 | True North | 87228-2 | United States | CD | 2013 | |
1:53 | True North | 7228-2 | Europe | CD | 2013 | |
1:53 | True North | EDC1-80476 | Japan | CD | 2013 | |
1:53 | True North | EPIT 7228-2A | Europe | CD | 2012 |
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Billy Gnosis
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I like the song, but it's one of the more juvenile tracks on the record, lyrically. The idea that "popular consensus" somehow informs faith-based reasoning totally mischaracterizes that viewpoint. So of course, popular consensus doesn't make Jesus real, but then again, popular consensus isn't what makes gravity real either. If a Christian rock band wrote a similar song about some other discipline of understanding, we'd laugh at it. That DOCTOR Graffin does it here is no different IMO.
Again, I like the song inasmuch as I don't have to think too much about what it's actually saying, but it's another entry in the late-era BR catalog that appears to be grabbing at really, really low-hanging fruit. 03/02/2013 at 10:06
I like the song, but it's one of the more juvenile tracks on the record, lyrically. The idea that "popular consensus" somehow informs faith-based reasoning totally mischaracterizes that viewpoint. So of course, popular consensus doesn't make Jesus real, but then again, popular consensus isn't what makes gravity real either. If a Christian rock band wrote a similar song about some other discipline of understanding, we'd laugh at it. That DOCTOR Graffin does it here is no different IMO.
Again, I like the song inasmuch as I don't have to think too much about what it's actually saying, but it's another entry in the late-era BR catalog that appears to be grabbing at really, really low-hanging fruit. |
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Billy Gnosis
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I like the song, but it's one of the more juvenile tracks on the record, lyrically. The idea that "popular consensus" somehow informs faith-based reasoning totally mischaracterizes that viewpoint. So of course, popular consensus doesn't make Jesus real, but then again, popular consensus isn't what makes gravity real either. If a Christian rock band wrote a similar song about some other discipline of understanding, we'd laugh at it. That DOCTOR Graffin does it here is no different IMO.
Again, I like the song inasmuch as I don't have to think too much about what it's actually saying, but it's another entry in the late-era BR catalog that appears to be grabbing at really, really low-hanging fruit. 03/02/2013 at 10:05
I like the song, but it's one of the more juvenile tracks on the record, lyrically. The idea that "popular consensus" somehow informs faith-based reasoning totally mischaracterizes that viewpoint. So of course, popular consensus doesn't make Jesus real, but then again, popular consensus isn't what makes gravity real either. If a Christian rock band wrote a similar song about some other discipline of understanding, we'd laugh at it. That DOCTOR Graffin does it here is no different IMO.
Again, I like the song inasmuch as I don't have to think too much about what it's actually saying, but it's another entry in the late-era BR catalog that appears to be grabbing at really, really low-hanging fruit. |
simian
Infected
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I think this song is a typical Graffinesque critique of faith-based reasoning, and laments how frustrating it is that people whose opinions are informed by faith seem unable to confront the underlying problems of our civilization. The idea that growth (population growth and/or economic growth) can and should continue unchecked seems to pervade the thinking of some influential religious leaders and media figures. Clearly (to those whose thinking is rooted in naturalism, at least) this is an absurd idea. The lament of this song seems to me to be an extension of the ideas in "Finite" from the last album.
02/12/2013 at 16:49
I think this song is a typical Graffinesque critique of faith-based reasoning, and laments how frustrating it is that people whose opinions are informed by faith seem unable to confront the underlying problems of our civilization. The idea that growth (population growth and/or economic growth) can and should continue unchecked seems to pervade the thinking of some influential religious leaders and media figures. Clearly (to those whose thinking is rooted in naturalism, at least) this is an absurd idea. The lament of this song seems to me to be an extension of the ideas in "Finite" from the last album.
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Alex
Guest
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The song is pretty straight forward, so I'm just gonna throw one thing out there: Am I the only one seeing critique of (turbo) capitalism in the second verse?
The reference to charity combined with the "ever increasing" modell of modern bank / interest systems seem suspicious to me. There already are two other songs related to that topic on the record, but downright questioning the whole structure of interest rates is... well, unexpected coming from BR. 01/20/2013 at 20:48
The song is pretty straight forward, so I'm just gonna throw one thing out there: Am I the only one seeing critique of (turbo) capitalism in the second verse?
The reference to charity combined with the "ever increasing" modell of modern bank / interest systems seem suspicious to me. There already are two other songs related to that topic on the record, but downright questioning the whole structure of interest rates is... well, unexpected coming from BR. |
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