Jackboots cracking on a polished floor
Red hats gathered in the liquor store
Pure hearts race on a crystal night
Everybody, grab a torch to light
Everybody, need somebody, join the party
The kids are Alt-Right today
Now grab your partner and do-si-do
Populism is a sold-out show
Humanity is a nowhere scene
When everybody has an AR-15
Everybody, need somebody, join the party
The kids are Alt-Right today
We love God, we love our women
We love tradition, we love kin
We've got shiny new tools
For ancient impulses that we can't even understand
So if you feel alone and downtrodden
There's an elixir for your ills
Join the Alt-Right post-light endarkenment order
And the rest of those bastards can go to hell
Alternative facts, alternative lies
Alternative names, alternative tribes
Everybody, let's get bloody, join the party
The kids are Alt-Right today
Version | Length | Release | Catalog ID | Country | Format | Year |
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2:44 | Age of Unreason | WPCR 18204 | Japan | CD | 2019 | |
2:43 | Age of Unreason | 7636-2 | Europe | CD | 2019 | |
2:43 | The Kids Are Alt-Right | 87636-3 | United States | DL | 2018 |
Priesterseminar
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Thanks for elaborating a bit more. This tends to be better suited for the forun rather than the song interpretation part..
I respect your point of view but want to separate the song from any personal agendas, no matter what they are.. The saddest aspect of this is that they ultimately caved in to some alt right trolling and decided to keep this song off the regular release.. again its not an issue of your personal agenda or where the trolling or critique comes from. Art should be about the vision of the artist and not what the public makes out of it. Like TKAAR or not, at some point they must have stood behind this song, but either were considered abput the negative feedback from fans or alt right trolling (this could be subsidized with any sort of trolling, Shitstorm, or ciritique) Thata not what punk is about or what art is about. It was never meant to please everybody, and your perfectly right to disagree with the message or conposition or whatever you dont like about it. But that shouldnt be the artists problem. We tend to live in an age where "never ever offend anybody" became one of the highest values.. its one thing to create new contemporary art with that mantra in mind, but to retroactively change or erase already existing works does leave such a sour taste in my mouth.. So yeah, i am really happy about this song finding a release at least as a hidden track on the CD version, but that still doesnt come off as a fuck you to the haters, but a rather half ashamed self perception.. 01/31/2021 at 09:16
Thanks for elaborating a bit more. This tends to be better suited for the forun rather than the song interpretation part..
I respect your point of view but want to separate the song from any personal agendas, no matter what they are.. The saddest aspect of this is that they ultimately caved in to some alt right trolling and decided to keep this song off the regular release.. again its not an issue of your personal agenda or where the trolling or critique comes from. Art should be about the vision of the artist and not what the public makes out of it. Like TKAAR or not, at some point they must have stood behind this song, but either were considered abput the negative feedback from fans or alt right trolling (this could be subsidized with any sort of trolling, Shitstorm, or ciritique) Thata not what punk is about or what art is about. It was never meant to please everybody, and your perfectly right to disagree with the message or conposition or whatever you dont like about it. But that shouldnt be the artists problem. We tend to live in an age where "never ever offend anybody" became one of the highest values.. its one thing to create new contemporary art with that mantra in mind, but to retroactively change or erase already existing works does leave such a sour taste in my mouth.. So yeah, i am really happy about this song finding a release at least as a hidden track on the CD version, but that still doesnt come off as a fuck you to the haters, but a rather half ashamed self perception.. |
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Mmm I need to clarify so I don't come off as a fascist myself. One has to be very careful these days (which is why, unfortunately, a lot of (white) guys have given up and joined the other side). In the 90's, you didn't have to say *white* anger. You just could say, I am angry about this and this and that. You didn't have to preface everything as a matter of your ethnicity. What identity politics did was create a culture where all expression had to be prefaced with a series of identities. Turns out, IMO, that 1) killed punk because suddenly punk became "white" and 2) dared white men to start prefacing everything THEY say with THEIR racial identity. But, uhhh, when white men do it, its fascism. That's not me being sarcastic. I mean it. When white men do it, they are fascists. But see that's the problem, and it actually shows that the whole program of identity politics is itself an inadvertent invitation to fascism, white nationalism and so on. And the alt-right people are sophisticated enough to know that. And they are gleeful about it. I am not. But I am embarrassed that the most intellectual punk band failed to properly analyze the immediate historical causes of the alt -right, which obviously did not start with Trump, but with Obama and the way the Democrats started saying anyone who disagreed with Obama was a racist. The same with Hillary and sexist. At first, we on the left were like, oh, yea, well Republicans are racist. But then the Democrats started doing it to the Bernie people too...
In sum, I agree with the basic thrust of Greg's music these days, that the solution is Reason and transcendental subjectivity, that my thought is not raced, or sexed, it is pure and in the language of Hegel, "negative." We can't get out of this mess without restoring reason. I feel like Brett on the other hand has followed the false solution, the centrist compromise, and although he claims not to, he nonetheless yearns for the good old days when white guys could just be white...but the cards have been dealt, and that age is over. That's why Brett got creamed :-/ Reason, though, will find a way past this. 01/30/2021 at 19:19
Mmm I need to clarify so I don't come off as a fascist myself. One has to be very careful these days (which is why, unfortunately, a lot of (white) guys have given up and joined the other side). In the 90's, you didn't have to say *white* anger. You just could say, I am angry about this and this and that. You didn't have to preface everything as a matter of your ethnicity. What identity politics did was create a culture where all expression had to be prefaced with a series of identities. Turns out, IMO, that 1) killed punk because suddenly punk became "white" and 2) dared white men to start prefacing everything THEY say with THEIR racial identity. But, uhhh, when white men do it, its fascism. That's not me being sarcastic. I mean it. When white men do it, they are fascists. But see that's the problem, and it actually shows that the whole program of identity politics is itself an inadvertent invitation to fascism, white nationalism and so on. And the alt-right people are sophisticated enough to know that. And they are gleeful about it. I am not. But I am embarrassed that the most intellectual punk band failed to properly analyze the immediate historical causes of the alt -right, which obviously did not start with Trump, but with Obama and the way the Democrats started saying anyone who disagreed with Obama was a racist. The same with Hillary and sexist. At first, we on the left were like, oh, yea, well Republicans are racist. But then the Democrats started doing it to the Bernie people too...
In sum, I agree with the basic thrust of Greg's music these days, that the solution is Reason and transcendental subjectivity, that my thought is not raced, or sexed, it is pure and in the language of Hegel, "negative." We can't get out of this mess without restoring reason. I feel like Brett on the other hand has followed the false solution, the centrist compromise, and although he claims not to, he nonetheless yearns for the good old days when white guys could just be white...but the cards have been dealt, and that age is over. That's why Brett got creamed :-/ Reason, though, will find a way past this. |
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Aye, good question. The song was heavily trolled by Alt-Right kids in the comments bar on the Epitaph channel version of the song on youtube. That was when the song came out. There was a disproportionate number of comments made by people who were obviously pro-alt-right, or at least pro-trolling that song. I think some of both. I thought I was going to be able to show you, but Epitaph Records turned off the comments for that song, and all comments have been deleted. I'm no expert, but given that comments are still open on Emacipation of the Mind, I'd guess they deleted the comments on The Kids are Alt Right as a matter of embarrassment at having been trolled so hard. The comments were, IMO, quite funny, and sadly, to me (BR is my favorite band) showed how out of touch BG has become with popular culture. The gist of the comments were along the lines of, Yea man, this song should be adopted as our anthem, we believe all these things, and we don't care, and you should be embarrassed for thinking that this kind of satire would somehow change our minds or even piss us off, given that our whole thing is about satire and ironic polemical stances.
I think another underlying issue that us punks should be thinking about is that a lot of people who were punks 20 years ago are alt-right now. And a lot of that has to do with the way a lot of the left, including punk, was basically absorbed by identity politics that has been pretty explicitly suspicious of any white men who show the emotion of anger, suspicious that white men who show anger are automatically fascist, etc. I think that suspicion made punk uncool in the eyes of a lot of kids who became indie or emo in the 2005-2010 era, which was also the last gasp of punk culture. And some white men witnesses that and became fascists, alt-right, etc, they "woke up" to white identity politics because of their experience of feeling that white anger was no longer allowed as political expression. So they switched sides from the left to the right. So Brett's analysis here in this song is super out of touch, because for Brett, Obama was a Sacred Cow, as for many liberals. That's why it was so easy for him and BR to be trolled about this song, because it was proof that Brett actually had no idea what caused the alt -right, and also showed that BR was apparently unaware of how many of its fans had gone alt-right after the experience of Obama. Thats my "off the top of my head" take on it. Its actually an issue that is worth serious research, but that would take more time... :) 01/30/2021 at 19:01
Aye, good question. The song was heavily trolled by Alt-Right kids in the comments bar on the Epitaph channel version of the song on youtube. That was when the song came out. There was a disproportionate number of comments made by people who were obviously pro-alt-right, or at least pro-trolling that song. I think some of both. I thought I was going to be able to show you, but Epitaph Records turned off the comments for that song, and all comments have been deleted. I'm no expert, but given that comments are still open on Emacipation of the Mind, I'd guess they deleted the comments on The Kids are Alt Right as a matter of embarrassment at having been trolled so hard. The comments were, IMO, quite funny, and sadly, to me (BR is my favorite band) showed how out of touch BG has become with popular culture. The gist of the comments were along the lines of, Yea man, this song should be adopted as our anthem, we believe all these things, and we don't care, and you should be embarrassed for thinking that this kind of satire would somehow change our minds or even piss us off, given that our whole thing is about satire and ironic polemical stances.
I think another underlying issue that us punks should be thinking about is that a lot of people who were punks 20 years ago are alt-right now. And a lot of that has to do with the way a lot of the left, including punk, was basically absorbed by identity politics that has been pretty explicitly suspicious of any white men who show the emotion of anger, suspicious that white men who show anger are automatically fascist, etc. I think that suspicion made punk uncool in the eyes of a lot of kids who became indie or emo in the 2005-2010 era, which was also the last gasp of punk culture. And some white men witnesses that and became fascists, alt-right, etc, they "woke up" to white identity politics because of their experience of feeling that white anger was no longer allowed as political expression. So they switched sides from the left to the right. So Brett's analysis here in this song is super out of touch, because for Brett, Obama was a Sacred Cow, as for many liberals. That's why it was so easy for him and BR to be trolled about this song, because it was proof that Brett actually had no idea what caused the alt -right, and also showed that BR was apparently unaware of how many of its fans had gone alt-right after the experience of Obama. Thats my "off the top of my head" take on it. Its actually an issue that is worth serious research, but that would take more time... :) |
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Any links or sources of the alt right kids loving this song? I am just curious
01/29/2021 at 07:38
Any links or sources of the alt right kids loving this song? I am just curious
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This song was the death knell of Brett's relevance in popular culture. I don't mean that as an insult. I mean that the Alt right kids loved this song, and also saw it as proof of the irrelevance of this kind of centrist "culture critique" that is supposed to wake us up. Brett, bro, how did you not see that coming? Take your head out of Obama's...pay attention sheesh.
01/29/2021 at 05:32
This song was the death knell of Brett's relevance in popular culture. I don't mean that as an insult. I mean that the Alt right kids loved this song, and also saw it as proof of the irrelevance of this kind of centrist "culture critique" that is supposed to wake us up. Brett, bro, how did you not see that coming? Take your head out of Obama's...pay attention sheesh.
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