Download the full concert at www.bad-religion.net

I'm getting a "Forbidden" page when I try the link. Help?

I like it! I predict the album will sound like a mix of Process of Belief and Stranger than Fiction (the chorus reminds me of News on the Front for some reason)

Why did this song get played on the radio but theres no way to listen to it properly?

Hm... am I the only one who feels that this song should be played kinda faster?

subject of the new disc of bad religion, in quilmes rock 2007 -12- of April in Argentinean, touched 75 minutes altogether and of the times that it was the best one than I am listened to

"is it just me or is this song really short?"
No shorter than some of the songs on Process of Belief and The Empires Strikes First. "Prove It", "can't Stop It", "Social Suicide" were all around the same length.

is it just me or is this song really short?

wow this sounds way different from the shitty live version and this song is sick!@!!

they sounded like shit

I'm baffled by all this criticism that some people manage to dish out.
This sounds great, and yes, it doesn't sound like anything they've done before. But then again, what's the point releasing albums if they all sound exactly the same?
Bad Religion have always produced great music and as long as they don't start doing pop music or any of the other shit that fills the charts these days I'll keep buying their cds and going to their concerts.

Tuesg, it was Brett. Same IP as Starbolt. :)

Well, thanks for posting the lyrics, Brett! My band and I want to start playing this song, and now we can.

www.bad-religion.net posted a new download link with the show, in one file: http://www.bigupload.com/d=5214F80D

some oddities:
- the intro on Recipe..?
- Greg said it's the first time they attempt to play Heroes and Martyrs live

RAD!!!!
Thanks for posting this.

You think that Brett really posted the second time or someone just got annoyed at the fact people were still posting lyrics after starbolt posted em?

Hi Jay, hi Brett!
It`s always awesome to see you guys post in here!
There are rumors about this record being your last one. Is that true?
I hope it isn`t...thinking about an end makes me cry!

These are the correct lyrics.
Heroes & Martyrs
Amid the heat and the wrack
Hot boots invested and cracked
Poor candidates jacked into gray light
An ultraviolent call summoning both poet and thrall
Sweet catalyst for the acolytes
Our Heroes and Martyrs
present two points of view
Which deity you're praying to What's the sense of heroes & martyrs?
Into a welter of night
Flack, rounds and roiling blight
Cracked vertebrates stacked by the wayside
An ultraviolent call summoning both poet and thrall
The inveterate blind seeking daylight
Our Heroes and Martyrs
present two points of view
Which deity you're praying to What's the sense of heroes & martyrs?

the singing in part A reminds of me Metallica...
the song is awesome

Star Wars Team, right, thanks! And yeah, many of the Epitaph venue/festival names are wrong, so I don't blame you. :)

the links (still) work, remove the blank spaces, one in front of Bad_Religion, and one in front of Star_Wars

Steve, remove the SPACE between "Latino_Festival_2007__" and "Star_Wars_Team". BTW, I forgot to say thanks!

Ana: you are absolutely right, we did a mistake here. we thought they are the same festivals, we mixed it up cause of time zone difference or epitaph, we took it from the epitaph page, so actually, blame epitaph ;-). the whole show is the Quelmes Rock Festival in Argentina, Buenos Aires. The other festival was before that in Chile, if i am not mistaken. sorry for that guys. Just rename the info if you want once you got it. Or if someone is gonna host the files, you could change all the VIVE stuff to the right name. sorry again.

i cant get hte links to work for those songs :(

star wars team: Is the Vive Latino Festival the same as the Quelmes Rock Festival (12th April)? If not, do you know the date?

actually it sounds pretty kool

is'nt it 'amid the heat in Iraq'?

thanks guys! to me, the song sounds simply great! bad religion= simply, the best band in the world

delirium-: no lossless version available. the original stream was a poor 22kbits asf stream, the interview is a direct copy of it i think. we recorded it directly to mp3 128kbs, dont expect any quality loss by that, if anything at all, than 128kbs is probably a little too much for that poor source. but i dont know if it was broadcasted on tv or on a better radio station, there might be coming better quality versions.

star wars team: Thanks a lot for the show. Do you have a lossless version of it?

I'd like to see you do better steve.
Why are more people trying to work out the song?
Didn't Brett post the lyrics?

heroes and martyrs is best song!

if those are the lyrics i'm not that impressed

Amid the heat and the wrack
Hot boots invested and cracked
The candidates jacked into daylight
An ultraviolent call
Summoning both poet and thrall
Proclaiming it for the acolyte
Our heroes and martyrs
(I hear the heroes and martyrs)
Present two points of view
(Tell me)
Which deity you're prayin' to
(What's the sense of heroes and martyrs?)
Up on the environmental waste site
What made a man out of a kid?
Probably a childhood gray side
An ultraviolent call
Summoning both poet and thrall
Proclaiming it for the acolyte
Our heroes and martyrs
(I hear the heroes and martyrs)
Present two points of view
(Tell me)
Which deity you're prayin' to
(What's the sense of heroes and martyrs?)

to "........"
I dont use tabs for songs, I'd rather figure them out myself. Besides, it took me less than 15min.

here is the rest of the concert, but we missed the first 9 songs and the beginning of 21st century digital boy, sorry about that, hopefully someone got the whole show. we included the backstage interview that was ripped by ribas(?). you might have to wait 20 minutes after each download, feel free to host the files at a better place. enjoy (and again, remove the blank spaces): http://rapidshare.com/files/25753977/ Bad_Religion_-_Vive_Latino_Festival_2007__ Star_Wars_Team_.part1.rar.html
http://rapidshare.com/files/25755159/ Bad_Religion_-_Vive_Latino_Festival_2007__ Star_Wars_Team_.part2.rar.html
http://rapidshare.com/files/25756488/ Bad_Religion_-_Vive_Latino_Festival_2007__ Star_Wars_Team_.part3.rar.html
http://rapidshare.com/files/25757616/ Bad_Religion_-_Vive_Latino_Festival_2007__ Star_Wars_Team_.part4.rar.html
http://rapidshare.com/files/25757908/ Bad_Religion_-_Vive_Latino_Festival_2007__ Star_Wars_Team_.part5.rar.html

I can't get enough.
I really can't stop listening to it!

just look the chords here, from a picture from the studio:
http://i85.photobucket.com /albums/k70/against-the-grain /l_fff0248936f19be 7437b488261a45693.jpg
(remove the gaps, of course)

DIOXDIOXDIOXDIOX !!!!!!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
I CAN'T FUCKIN BELIEVE IT !!!!!!!!!

haha the chrods are all weird its like all good soliders but without the hanging drum beats

Goddamn the layout here.
.
intro/verse
G#/A# C#/D# G#/A#....E D#\C#....E E D#\C#
G#/A# C#/D# E....D#\C#
.
chorus
A# G# F# C# G#
A# G# F# F

noticed a small flaw, had one chord too many in the intro/verse. this is the correct thingy, I'll post the lead guitar lateron.
.
intro/verse
G#/A# C#/D# G#/A#....E D#\C#....E E D#\C# G#/A# C#/D# E........D#\C#
.
chorus
A# G# F# C# G#
A# G# F# F

chorus:
A# G# F# C# G#
A# G# F# F

damnit, it erases the spaces I added, making it a bit difficult to read.
G#/A# C#/D# G#/A#....E D#\C#....E E D#\C#
G#/A# C#/D# G# E.....D#\C#

crap, I translated the chords wrong -forgot that my guitar was in a diff tuning-
chords intro tune:
G#/A# C#/D# G#/A# E D#\C# E E D#\C#
G#/A# C#/D# G# E D#\C#

chords intro tune:
C/D F/G C/D G# G\F G# G# G\F
C/D F/G C G# G\F
.
might figure out the rest of the song today, only on request though

Freaking awesome... Very aggressive sounding. I'm going to love the new album.

Refresh helps. I'm failing everything these days. Maybe I should study something besides lyrics.

Amen the heat and the wreck
Our boots invested and cracked
The apparent mental pictures of daily life
An ultra-violent cross
A medieval poet of wrong
Who will carry this body of a killer?
Our heroes and martyrs present two points of view
Whoa which deity you?re praying to.
A mighty bottle worth a swack
What kind of man would attack
A mother and a child in prison?
An ultra-violent cross
A medieval poet of wrong
Who will carry this body of a killer?
Our heroes and martyrs present two points of view
Whoa which deity you?re praying to.

Ne'ermind it appears those with more authority have struck first. thanks guys!

Amid the heat in Iraq
Hot boots encrusted and cracked
Appearing shocking in daylight
An ultraviolent call summoning both poet and claw
who can ignore the -------
Our heroes and martyrs
present two points of view whoa!
what deity are they praying to
A --------- sight
---------again
Will fire try to ---------
An ultraviolent call summoning both poet and claw
who can ignore the -------
Our heroes and martyrs
present two points of view whoa!
what deity are they praying to
Heroes and martyrs
-----
Sounds like another song about suicide bombers, a la Live Again (TFOM).

thanks brett! well that was quick.. we just got offstage pretty much and it's already up...
see you in brasil

Heroes & Martyrs
Amid the heat and the wrack
Hot boots invested and cracked
Poor candidates jacked into gray light
An ultraviolent call summoning both poet and thrall
Sweet catalyst for the acolytes
Our Heroes and Martyrs
present two points of view
Which deity you?re praying to What?s the sense of heroes & martyrs?
Into a welter of night
Flack, rounds and roiling blight
Cracked vertebrates stacked by the wayside
An ultraviolent call summoning both poet and thrall
The inveterate blind seeking daylight
Our Heroes and Martyrs
present two points of view
Which deity you?re praying to What?s the sense of heroes & martyrs?

Thanks star wars fan this is awesome! The song does sound a little un-BRish, but the chorus is fucking awesome...This song has been in my head all day, i love those backing vocals!
This is highjacking the thread, but ikillkenny, could you share those suffer sessions songs from a little while back? with Politics? anything apart from the acoustic songs would be awesome!

Meh, here;s what I've got after a couple of minutes of guessing:
I beat the heat in Iraq.
I put some ---- in Qur'an (?)
----- in the da--aylight.
An ultra violent ---- anthropoid ----
Our Heroes and Martyrs
Present two points of view, oh!
Which deity are you praying to?
----
----
---- ge----enocide.
An ultra violent ---- anthropoid ----
----
Heroes And Martyrs.
Thanks, ikillkenny, for contributing, it's giving me some clarity.

first off, I'm pretty sure he said "Iraq" and not rack. Secondly, this is live, and it sounded like Graffin and the band was moving around a lot while playing. Understandably since it's a new song: if i played a new song id be more than nervous or excited or anxious.

I love it! It sounds a little different, yet maintains what makes Bad Religion so great. If this is any indication, this will be an incredible album.

My really terrible attempt to get the lyrics:
Verse 1:
Amid the heat and the rack??
Our boots invested??? and cracked
????? the daylight
An ultraviolet across the medieval poet of wrong
What kind of ???
Everybody
carry ???
Chorus:
Our heroes and martyrs
Present two points of view
What deity are they prarying to?
Verse 2:
1:
2: What kind of man or ???
3: Mother or child
An ultraviolet across the medieval poet of wrong
What kind of ???
Chorus

Is it just me, or does this song just sound twisted? Just listen to Graffins singing! And the chords... I really don't know what to think yet. Except for the refrain it sounds very not Bad Religionish to me. Looking forward to hear the studio version though.

Im waiting for a kinda album like Recipe for hate ou Generator!
heroes and martyrs sounds like songs on The Empire Strike First album...
Thanx Star Wars Team!!!

holy. fucking. shit.
those chords changes made my head explode.
This album is going to own all; sounds like POB & ATG to me.
whoever ripped this is my hero for the year.

As I said in the last news item:
Can someone try and figure out the lyrics to the song from the radio rip that star wars team posted? I've already got the instruments all figured out and the lyrics would be GREATLY appreciated (I am trying to figure them out, though I've just started).