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The revered punk band Bad Religion is set to reissue last year's acclaimed New Maps of Hell with expanded features and bonus material on July 8th. Lifelong dissenters and noted critics of the current administration (2004's The Empire Strikes First was a direct critique of Bush's pre-emptive policy), the band's 15th release ironically, but coincidentally, comes out just days after the 4th of July.
The deluxe version of New Maps of Hell includes the original 16 song CD, along with seven new acoustic tracks recorded by principal songwriters Greg Graffin (vocals) and Brett Gurewitz (guitars). Three of the acoustic songs are new, written specifically for this release; the other four tracks are new acoustic versions of Bad Religion classics such as 2004's hit song "Sorrow" and the perennial favorite "Skyscraper." Graffin and Gurewitz formed the idea of recording the EP to illustrate how they write songs: generally writing a song on just an acoustic guitar or piano, and then crafting it into the electrified scorchers they ultimately become later with the band.
Additionally, the release includes a DVD with an hour-long live performance that has never been seen before, along with music videos for NMOH's two singles "Honest Goodbye" and "New Dark Ages," behind-the-scenes footage of Brett and Greg during the recording of the acoustic EP and more.
The all-new packaging pays homage to the band's hometown of Los Angeles, but unmasks the city with a gritty reality not usually associated with Tinseltown. Shot in the striking format of high dynamic range photography by local fine arts photographer Dave Bollock, the deluxe release also features a booklet of Bollock's work entitled "New Maps of Hell - City of Angels" and classic Bad Religion posters.
Voted THE "Old School Band who Still Rock" by Alternative Press readers, Bad Religion are giving back to the fans who have supported them in their over two-decade long career with New Maps of Hell deluxe edition.
Tracklist:
Disc I
01 - 52 Seconds (0:58)
02 - Heroes & Martyrs (1:26)
03 - Germs of Perfection (1:28)
04 - New Dark Ages (2:48)
05 - Requiem for Dissent (2:08)
06 - Before You Die (2:35)
07 - Honest Goodbye (2:52)
08 - Dearly Beloved (2:20)
09 - Grains of Wrath (3:01)
10 - Murder (1:19)
11 - Scrutiny (2:37)
12 - Prodigal Son (3:08)
13 - The Grand Delusion (2:11)
14 - Lost Pilgrim (2:28)
15 - Submission Complete (3:41)
16 - Fields of Mars (3:38)
Acoustic Tracks
17 - Won't Somebody (3:08) [previously unreleased]
18 - Adam's Atoms (2:37) [previously unreleased]
19 - Sorrow (3:12)
20 - God Song (2:40)
21 - Dearly Beloved (2:37)
22 - Chronophobia (1:55) [previously unreleased]
23 - Skyscraper (3:00)
Disc II (DVD)
- The Making of The Acoustic EP
- Myspace and The List Present Bad Religion Live In Las Vegas
- "New Dark Ages" Music Video
- "Honest Goodbye" Music Video
- The Making of "New Maps of Hell" EPK
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06/16/2008 at 03:51
Wow and I thought I was cynical, jaded, and paranoid but you too it to a new level.
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06/09/2008 at 08:20
of course I'm glad theyre releasing it, but come on. Making us pay for thevsame 16 songs twice is NOT a favor. Its another one of bretts business concepts. Of course I appreciate it but I'm not gonna be seduced by epitaphs bullshit. I'm buying it because I love BR, not because I'm accepting a favor. Let's be real.
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06/01/2008 at 21:20
so.... when is someone gonna put the unreleased tracks on megaupload??? even if i do download the unrealeased tracks, i'll still buy the album
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05/30/2008 at 04:45
Once again I'm forced to ask would you rather they didn't release this stuff?
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05/28/2008 at 18:16
lol... I don't normally post, but this aaaaaaaaaa guy is so funny I feel compelled :-)
A favor is defined as 'an act of kindness beyond what is due'. When I pay money to a CD retailer, them giving me a CD in return isn't an act of kindness beyond what is due... them giving me a CD in return is exactly what is due. When a record label distributes CDs to CD retailers they are not doing them a favor, they are expecting payment. When a band records a new album for their record label, they are not doing it as a favor... they're doing it because somewhere down the line they expect payment. In other words, where money is exchanged for goods and services it is not a favor, it is a business transaction. When your plumber comes to fix your pipes because you pay him a sum of money, is he doing it as a favor or is it for the money? When an artist paints a painting that you buy from a gallery, did he do it as a favor or is his business selling paintings? This is a very simple concept :-) |
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05/25/2008 at 02:10
Once againg I'm forced to ask would you rather they didn't release this stuff Sean? Releasing this stuff is a favor to the fans. I don't know why I have to constantly reiterate myself but you spoiled people don't get it. You just want to be spoiled and expect everything to be handed to you for free. It's a favor and the next person to comment better answer the question I asked at the beginning of this comment and every other comment I've left or else don't bother commenting because you're too ignorant to warrant a response. Bunch of spoiled brats on this site I swear.
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05/18/2008 at 23:17
acting like a whiney bitch = acting like a whiney bitch.
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05/18/2008 at 03:44
hey "aaaaaaaaaaa", let me explain something to you:
giving a gift = a favor selling a CD = business |
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05/17/2008 at 05:07
no, what he's saying is that he's disappointed that the completely new songs are acoustic.
I think it's cool. I do hope they do full band versions of them too, we always hear bands go from electric to acoustic. It'd be nice to hear it go from acoustic to electric. |
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05/16/2008 at 19:08
"disapointed the new songs are only acoustic ones."- having the "normal" version on it would be totally senseless. what would be the point of that?
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05/16/2008 at 18:08
i was hoping the dvd would consist of stuff they did recently when they did themed nights, be great to see them do all that old stuff from the 1st album on dvd.
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05/16/2008 at 18:06
disapointed the new songs are only acoustic ones.
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05/16/2008 at 04:54
Jau, if the Deluxe version has two different covers(US&Euro), then don't you have to buy two copies more?? (:-
I too have the tendency to buy the same albums in different variations.. A signed album would have been nice to have but back when I got into the st.-team business it didn't take long for me to find out that they screwed everyone outside the US by not shipping anything anymore abroad! Now, that was a time when I got fuckin' pissed!! |
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05/16/2008 at 01:06
Am the only one who thinks the one lyric that's initally regonizable on the front cover (dedication is the price you pay) ironic, considering this is a re-issue?
I mean in a funny way though, as my own dedication to BR has led me to own 3 copies of the same album (1 on vinyly & a signed copy of the cd, though those were free via street team, & one import version), and a 4th one in the form of a re-issue (with worthwhile extras). That being said, I need to get back to posting news; I'm annoyed I missed this one myself :\. |
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05/15/2008 at 18:56
I have 2 weenie roast tickets (SEPERATE NOT TOGETHER) for sale if anyone wants? I need the money basically to ebay a pair together.... ill sell for 150 each or you can be the highest bidder on my ebay... they are LOGE seats so your sitting in the middle one is loge 5 other is loge 7
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05/15/2008 at 10:54
I think the top one is the USA release and the bottom is the Europe release.
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05/15/2008 at 08:30
-Why two different pictures above of cover? Is this release in a slipcase(which would be nice..) or something ?
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05/13/2008 at 10:57
My question was simply if there is for instance a bootleg out of Groezrock 08?
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05/13/2008 at 03:08
If they put it on an official release, it wouldn't be a bootleg.
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05/13/2008 at 01:45
No bootlegs of recent shows at all???
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05/13/2008 at 00:59
Make, no mistake it is a favor and I ask again would you rather they didn't release this stuff? Maybe I was brought up differently because in my house it was always "be grateful and say thanks if someone does you a favor" and not say screw you it's not good enough. I guess you prefer the latter though. That's what disgusts me about the modern world no one is grateful for anything they all just take it for granted or say it's not good enough.
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05/13/2008 at 00:45
Hey Albaholic, welcome to the real world, of course Epitaph is going to try to make money. Why wouldn't they? Not trying to make money kind of screws the idea of a successful business. They're counting on the fact that people like you are going to buy it and yes it is a favor, would you rather they didn't release this stuff? It is a favor and it is going to cost you.
------------ Wow, for someone who tries to school me in the facts of real-world business, you sure do have little understanding of the simple idea that selling something to someone does not amount to doing them a favor. |
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05/12/2008 at 02:59
Damn.. as excited I am about this, I sooo wish they would have done this "deluxe edition with a different album. I mean NMoH was great and all, but a deluxe for that one seems kinda soon. timing is just right for a deluxe version of Against the Grain!!!!
I mean, if they added all those unreleased tracks with AtG and a DVD of that.... HOLY SHIT... Either way I'm psyched... NMoH was amazing too.... |
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05/12/2008 at 00:33
Cool, thanks. :)
For fans in the UK, NMoH: Deluxe is available for pre-order on play.com for ?13.99. According to the site it's getting released over here on the sixth of June. It's got the weird red cover. |
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05/11/2008 at 19:27
they also played LET THEM EAT WAR (with jay doing the rap part)
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05/11/2008 at 17:59
i rechecked, only two shows sold out so far.
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05/11/2008 at 17:42
the setlist was pretty much standard, ill try to sum it up with no particular order, the show was around 65 minutes, as scheduled almost. i dont think i forgotten any, but could be, cause of the annoying crowd surfer. the crowd was also into it, a lot of sing along. greg also mentioned they managed to visit groezrock every two years, as promised.
Setlist: Sinister Rouge (with Intro), Before You Die, New Dark Ages, Requiem for Dissent, Big Bang, I Want To Conquer The World, Flath Earth Society, 21st Century Digital Boy, Suffer, Do What You Want, We Are Only Gonna Die, Fuck Armageddon, Generator (Festival version, started by the audience, after jay interrupted greg starting it), Recipe For Hate, American Jesus, Stranger Than Fiction, Infected, A Walk, Punk Rock Song, The Defense, Sorrow. |
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05/11/2008 at 17:41
well not really yet, since they have that weenie roast show this month, dont they? after that its back to europe, and i dont see why it shouldnt. abouzt the german tour dates i woulch recheck, i think many are sold out, i guess the festival shows should still ahve tickets, but those are not really cheap...
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05/11/2008 at 16:58
Seconding that wish for alternate versions of sorrow and god song. Any acoustic version is a good version but I really hope that *all* (i'm sure the demos will, and I'd imagine skyscraper would have to) the tracks have Brett and/or greg tracked in as background vocals a la the acoustic suffer demos.
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05/11/2008 at 16:53
If I wasn't so hardpressed for money right now I'd honestly go to Germany to see them (if there ain't any Scottish dates after all).
I'm just hoping that this is just a short festival tour and that they're coming back to play proper gigs over here later on. |
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05/11/2008 at 16:32
is anyone else from the UK really starting to worry about the lack of dates so far...?
I noticed that. I may start thinking about going to Germany to see them if we don't get any soon. |
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05/11/2008 at 16:23
That's cool Madreligion. (b^_^)b
So does that mean that the European Tour '08 is officially underway? |
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05/11/2008 at 16:15
so what was the setlist on groezrock?
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05/11/2008 at 16:00
Um, hello, Epitaph copywriters... Sorrow was a hit song in 2002, not 2004.
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05/11/2008 at 15:42
sorry, banjo didnt read it, i did what i usually hate most abnut some people on this comments section, i didnt bother to read all the comments through, shame on me.
BUT, you proposed the customer should pretend buying something different, while my solution is to let epitaph do the labeling, so you dont have to lie to your conciousness. as far as it concerns me, i lie to myself everyday, so i can live with your solution. on another topic, anyone been to groezrock yesterday? the band was pretty fresh and alive, i guess they had a good rest from the previous shows. and jay, next time think twice when setting up your gear, standing with the back to the audience with low hanging trousers and letting something drop, i think we will soon see some "scandal" butt pictures on the net. but then again, it could be a smart marketing scheme for the deluxe album, i mean DVD with NMOH... |
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05/11/2008 at 14:37
Madreligion, that's what I said! That's Banjo's solution, not Madreligion's!!!
On a more serious note, is anyone else from the UK really starting to worry about the lack of dates so far...? |
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05/11/2008 at 11:19
they should just change the name and concept of the cd, and people will stop complaining. label it as a DVD with a bonus version of NMOH and additional acoustic songs, and everyone will be happy. or sell the dvd with the acoustic songs without NMOH, price it the same as the NMOH deluxe version, and let people chose ;-) ...
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05/11/2008 at 00:31
I think this are great news. I can't wait to see that DVD and to hear those new acoustic tracks. I hope Sorrow and God Song aren't the ones that came on the Japanese edition of NMOH (Even if those are great I'd prefer to have other versions).
Now, to all the people complaining, first of all, there's not even a price for this deluxe edition so what are you complaining about? We don't even know if the new stuff will be available elsewhere for those who already purchased the album! Secondly, I doubt it would cost less if it did not include NMOH tracks. I mean it would still be a CD + a DVD + a booklet. Anyway if you don't want to buy it that's ok but It's not as if there were only two or three additional tracks, there are indeed a lot of cool things in this re-issue. So rock on BR. |
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05/10/2008 at 22:33
Looking at the new cover, I'm hoping they include lots of lyrics sheets like they did with All Ages. It was interesting reading the alternate lyrics to Suffer.
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05/10/2008 at 21:13
I can't believe I share a common interest with some of you turd sandwiches!
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05/10/2008 at 20:42
Hey Albaholic, welcome to the real world, of course Epitaph is going to try to make money. Why wouldn't they? Not trying to make money kind of screws the idea of a successful business. They're counting on the fact that people like you are going to buy it and yes it is a favor, would you rather they didn't release this stuff? It is a favor and it is going to cost you so just shut up and enjoy it.
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05/10/2008 at 19:28
or I should say, the choice of that particular text was intentional.
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05/10/2008 at 19:27
" "dedication is the price you pay" - oh, the irony! "
Something tells me the placement of that particular text was intentional. |
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05/10/2008 at 16:39
Banjo's solution:
Just pretend that you've bought a new BR live DVD which just happens to have a copy of NMOH with it. And lots of extras. Easy. |
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05/10/2008 at 06:00
Kudos to albaholic for truth in every way is possible
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05/10/2008 at 04:15
"A bunch of people competing to be the world's most ungrateful douche."
------------- Yet another schmuck who thinks that Epitaph has done us "ungrateful douches" some kind of great favor by offering to sell us stuff (including some of the stuff they've already sold to us last year). I told you that I'm going to buy it; I just don't see it as any sort of "gift to the fans". In fact, the only ones who are going to be passing along a gift will be me and the other 2 people who commented here... in the form of our NMOH cds to a friend. |
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05/10/2008 at 03:46
@aaaaaaaaa: It's not that some of us are "too cheap" to buy it. For me, it's one part, "holy crap, I can't afford this!" and one part, "why are they re-releasing an album they just put out last year?" Why didn't they just release the acoustic EP/videos/concert on its own? If I had the money, I'd buy that! I mean, let's face it, the people who are interested in this stuff probably already bought the album when it first came out, a re-issue is not really all that necessary. But, whatever.
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05/10/2008 at 03:00
"dedication is the price you pay" - oh, the irony!
Anyway, can't wait. Looks wicked! |
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05/10/2008 at 02:23
I agree with aaaaaaaaaa
Stop crying douches! |
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05/10/2008 at 01:38
@aaaaaaaaaa:
You're a fucking idiot. |
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05/10/2008 at 00:44
You all sound like a bunch of whiny high school girls. Why don't you just be grateful for the new material rather than bitching about it. I guess that's the way of the world today though, A bunch of people competing to be the world's most ungrateful douche. If you don't think its worth the money don't buy it, the world won't stop because some ungrateful douche won't buy an album. No one cares that you're too cheap to shell out a little extra money for some great extras.
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05/09/2008 at 23:33
Hopefully the DVD is good quality.
Is it just me or is Live At the Palladium one of the quietest concert DVDs ever? |
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05/09/2008 at 22:35
Oh..and I found it on bol.com with a red cover
http://tinyurl.com/3obqtb |
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05/09/2008 at 22:20
I'm somewhere in between these opinions from all of you guys. I already bought the album last year, so I'm not so happy I have to buy the album again for the new songs and bonus things. But if nobody bought the album last year, then it would have never sold this good. ( 35 on the billboard 200 is pretty good for BR) And unsuccessful cd's never get deluxe editions. And I don't care that much spending an extra 20 euros a year on my favorite band. So I will buy it
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05/09/2008 at 22:12
Guys, it's a pretty simple concept to understand: fans who bought the CD just last year wouldn't consider it a "gift to the fans" to have to pay for it again.
And if this is a sign of things to come, I just may download the music next time BR puts out an album and then wait for the loaded special edition the following year before I open my wallet. How's that for being a fan? All that said, the new tracks are very exciting, the acoustic versions should be good, and the List show was great from what I've seen so I'll take my solace in that and hope it doesn't cost too much. |
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05/09/2008 at 21:13
first of all people bands don't make shit in their record sales its a very small profit for a band though bad religion probably makes mores
eeing as Brett owns the label. money is made touring a percentage of each ticket sold as well as the hundreds of dollars in merch sold every night... When they did their socal tour me and my party alone bought about 100 dollars in merch tween 4 people so they do have the money tog ive an album away. Just thought ide say that. Frankly I feel it is a reward to the fans whether we buy it or not thats why we are called fans welikewhat they have to offer |
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05/09/2008 at 21:04
It seems that nobody of you is caring about the (pseudo-)official new live DVD. Also, I find it a bit premature to complain when we don't even know the pricing scheme.
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05/09/2008 at 20:42
What irritates you so much, W!? Is it because you're one of those completists you mention and you know you won't be able to avoid buying this? If people feel they have the right to download albums on the internet (which I do, by the way), bands have every right to (re)release albums every time they want. After all, it's your choice to buy them or not, so I don't see what's the big deal. By the way, Webmaster, Dearly Beloved acoustic and Skyscraper acoustic ARE also previously unreleased tracks.
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05/09/2008 at 20:03
I quite like the cover.
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05/09/2008 at 18:17
"And this is the problem with the new models. It's that people now think they deserve things for being fans." lee, you're absolutely wrong about this. There's not a new entitlement issue here just because a couple of bands did a new thing. It all has to be considered on a case-by-case basis, and this press release is using the concept of a gift to supplant the notion that completist superfans might feel taken advantage of. Whether that's BR's intent or not, that's how this thing is written, so that's what we're taking to task. BR have NEVER been very good at reading the fans' pulse and putting out this kind of thing (ie - Tested, the Epi reissues...Live at the Paladium rules though!). Someone, somewhere just doesn't get it. But that's ok, they excel at making music. There must be a legitimate market for this release or else it wouldn't exist, but to pass it off as a gift for fans is a bit dishonest.
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05/09/2008 at 12:17
They should have killed two birds with one stone and included this as a bonus with a remaster of ITU instead
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05/09/2008 at 09:36
im fuckin psyched. you guys can just sell your old copy. or keep it as a back up. epitaph cds are cheaply made, i broke two copies of TESF just by putting it in and out of my cd case
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05/09/2008 at 07:52
there absolutely should be a way to just buy the extras, but whatcha gonna do?
I'll give my cd to a friend as well. |
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05/09/2008 at 07:41
I agree with Albaholic. Almost all of us I'm sure bought NMOH the day it came out(Pretty much a year before this comes out). Why should we have to pay again for some new stuff, along with the same 16 songs we already have.
With that said, I'll probably just give my old copy of NMOH to a friend when this one comes out. |
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05/09/2008 at 07:07
While I don't mind paying for the extra stuff, I don't see how BR are "giving back to the fans" by making us pay twice for the same album we bought last summer.
Sounds like those fans loyal enough to have actually gone out and bought NMOH when it came out aren't getting as good a deal as the average non-fan who comes across this at Virgin Megastore and thinks "Ooh, there's a bunch of extras on this one! Ok, I'll actually buy it this time instead of downloading." I'll still pick it up though. I just don't see this as any kind of favor or gift. |
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05/09/2008 at 00:40
"If BR wanted to do something nice for fans they could offer this bonus material as a free download in addition to selling it with the fancy new artwork."
And this is the problem with the new models. It's that people now think they deserve things for being fans. Bad Religion don't have the bank role that trent reznor or radiohead have. it's a LOT easier for them to give away their material. |
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05/08/2008 at 21:29
"the band's 15th release ironically, but coincidentally, comes out just days after the 4th of July." And that is just about the stupidest fucking thing I've read in a long time.
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05/08/2008 at 21:27
"Bad Religion are giving back to the fans who have supported them in their over two-decade long career with New Maps of Hell deluxe edition."
What exactly is so "giving" about reissuing an album that's a year old? I'm sorry but there are new models in place now. If BR wanted to do something nice for fans they could offer this bonus material as a free download in addition to selling it with the fancy new artwork. |
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05/08/2008 at 14:27
If people weren't actually joking about that Adam thing, I would assume they're referring to the Biblical Adam, as in Adam and Eve.
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05/08/2008 at 11:03
This has already been explained: New Chapter didn't work out at all. They didn't even record it.
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05/08/2008 at 10:53
What about the song The Next Chapter?
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05/08/2008 at 05:05
They should really just release the extra stuff separately as an option.
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05/08/2008 at 00:30
Comments by EATYOURDOG from United States on 2008-05-07 @ 23:21
I wonder who Adam is... I know someone called Adam. He's got some damn fine atoms. |
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05/08/2008 at 00:30
Comments by EATYOURDOG from United States on 2008-05-07 @ 23:21
I wonder who Adam is... I know someone called Adam. He's got some damn fine atoms. |
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05/08/2008 at 00:10
does anyone have know when the honest goodbye video will be relased?
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05/07/2008 at 23:21
I wonder who Adam is...
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05/07/2008 at 22:19
"I hope they release a new single with this album!!! I wanna hear dearly beloved or before you die on the radio and watch a new video of either or... Right??"
Or you can do this fantastic thing, where by placing the cd in a cd PLAYER, you listen to the music held on the disc. |
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05/07/2008 at 17:23
I hope they release a new single with this album!!! I wanna hear dearly beloved or before you die on the radio and watch a new video of either or... Right??
Maybe they will put honest goodbye in video rotation on some of the music channels n stuff |
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05/07/2008 at 09:42
Nice!
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05/07/2008 at 05:30
Rudy,
According to Jay, the song basically just didn't work out, at all. Never was even fully recorded. |
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05/07/2008 at 05:11
if they re-recorded Into the Unknown playing it at modern punk speeds with fancy brooks fills and what not, it would be one of the finest albums around.
then again, same with no substance. |
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05/07/2008 at 05:00
as soon as someone gets a megaupload file up of the new acoustic tracks, let it KNOWN!
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05/07/2008 at 03:42
I'll get it, but it'd be nice if there was an option to just buy the extras.
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05/07/2008 at 01:57
I would want a cd version of ITU, i think ITU is much better than some of the atlantic albums
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05/07/2008 at 01:21
I imagine more people would enjoy this than they would Into the Unknown.
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05/07/2008 at 01:04
A CD of acoustic extras - so why not reissue Into The Unknown in its own right then? It rocks a lot more than this extra CD of acoustic tracks is likely to and will be available to a public who may never have heard the album. Releasing MHOH on CD deluxe because fans may be interested in how Greg and Brett write songs may appeal to very hardcore BR fans but why bother, really?
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05/07/2008 at 00:12
i thought there was another song called new chapter or somthing like that.jay had mentioned it last yera. i remember it was supposed to be released with the first NMOH release but the band decided to take it out from the tracklist. How come this releae does not include it??
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05/06/2008 at 22:46
nice, I realy want to see the dvd
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05/06/2008 at 22:21
wait wait, it says three songs are specifically written for this release. didnt they say those are acoustic versions from the next album?
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05/06/2008 at 21:26
DUDE... THAT'S SO AWESOME
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05/06/2008 at 21:26
I heard Scrutiny was played at that Myspace show, that should be interesting live. Some of the songs from that show are on youtube though so it's not all completely unreleased...
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05/06/2008 at 21:11
the HDR photos excite me, i'm into that too. just shot a couple in downtown los angeles.
looking forward to this release. |
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05/06/2008 at 20:07
Alright, I was pretty excited about the live performance DVD until I read it was from that MySpace show. Did ANYONE here attend last year's Pre-Warped Tour party/show at The Glasshouse in Pomona where Bad Religion were the "SPECIAL GUEST"? I was there and remember them having cameras recording the show, even a long armed crane swooping over the crowd but I never heard or saw any footage of that anywhere.
Brett? Jay? Any word on what that was for? |
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05/06/2008 at 18:58
Gives totally new meaning to the phrase "a load of bollocks" I suppose.
Still, can't wait to hear it and see it... |
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05/06/2008 at 18:49
i can't wait for those acoustic tracks..
just reading the names excites me.. i'd bet "won't somebody" is a brett's song.. and wanna have those videos in good quality ** |
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05/06/2008 at 18:32
I'm rather into high dynamic range photos at the moment. Also, Chronophobia sounds like an interesting name for a song.
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05/06/2008 at 17:47
awesome! so there was an honest goodbye video. can't wait to see it!
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