[quote=j0hn]4 illinois shows. 1 ohio. no indiana. fuck rise against they even formed in indy. forgetting their hometown.[/quote]Actually, I think they formed in Tinley Park, a south Chicago suburb in Illinois... So that explains the 4 Illinios shows.

God damn it, the tickets to this sold out so fucking fast. I didn't get one for either the Baltimore or D.C. shows. I probably spent over US$500 last year on BR-related stuff (concert tickets, travel to concerts, TDOM stuff, Greg's books, vinyl box set). Now I'm gonna go bend over for StubHub and shell out probably $90 to see maybe a 15-20 song set. GROAN. Not to say it isn't worth it, though, or else I wouldn't be doing it. Bad Religion, why do you have to rock so much?

Austin, here we fucking come.

4 illinois shows. 1 ohio. no indiana. fuck rise against they even formed in indy. forgetting their hometown.

wtf? rise against beat out bad religion for the main spot? Oh you marketing people have a sick sense of humor.

Tickets are pretty expensive :-/ ......wish it was a HOB show, or that BR was doing HOB shows this year

[quote=simian]This means Jay and I can hang out backstage and bullshit while RA is playing. w00t.[/quote]I has green with envy over this

This means Jay and I can hang out backstage and bullshit while RA is playing. w00t.

Thanks, paulb.

KROQENDGAME

The long beach show is on Ticketmaster now. The KROQ pre-sale starts on Wednesday. If anyone has the presale code, please post it.

I guess I thought since the CD came out in Sept that tour didn't have the newer music on it. My mistake. Either way, still rather wait until closer to me and not an opening band.

lol they have been touring for the whole time last year. It's actually a smart move to open for a band.

[quote=Natureboy]I really wanna see BR again playing songs from new CD but not as an opening band especially since I am in Canada and would have to travel. Worth waiting until they do their own tour in support of it. Seems odd to me after just releasing a new CD they would not automatically do their own tour.[/quote]http://thebrpage.net/shows/tour.asp?tourID=85

I really wanna see BR again playing songs from new CD but not as an opening band especially since I am in Canada and would have to travel. Worth waiting until they do their own tour in support of it. Seems odd to me after just releasing a new CD they would not automatically do their own tour.

Why the hell doesn't ticketmaster show the Long Beach show?

So then just take [quote=micpal]No American Jesus? No Digital Boy? No New Dark Ages? I don't think that set list is going to happen.[/quote]So then just take out recipe for hate and put American Jesus

No American Jesus? No Digital Boy? No New Dark Ages? I don't think that set list is going to happen.

That is a good setlist, But I think they would most likely play Anesthesia more than All There Is/Gods Love.

I like that setlist but I have a feeling that theyll change the beginning of the setlist and play a couple more songs off of TDOM. Im hoping they play The Day The Earth Stalled.

Agreed. Except for all there is and gods love. I would love to hear all there is though

[quote=SOLDSHORT][quote=Brett Religion][quote=SOLDSHORT]I hope they play sorrow or infected[/quote]Either one of the two? You don't want to hear BOTH???? What kind of hardcore fan are you??? :shocked:[/quote]they aren't playing a full set, n00b. I hope to God they play AT LEAST one of those...[/quote]So let's suppose BR plays 15 songs (I can hope, right?) This is not my wishlist, just my guess of what they'd play: Do what you want Overture/Sinsister Rouge All there is or God's Love Suffer Devil in Stitches Wrong Way Kids Resist Stance You Generator Recipe For Hate Fuck Armageddon We're only gonna die LA is burning Infected Sorrow Thoughts???

[quote=Brett Religion][quote=SOLDSHORT]I hope they play sorrow or infected[/quote]Either one of the two? You don't want to hear BOTH???? What kind of hardcore fan are you??? :shocked:[/quote]they aren't playing a full set, n00b. I hope to God they play AT LEAST one of those...

[quote=SOLDSHORT]I hope they play sorrow or infected[/quote]Either one of the two? You don't want to hear BOTH???? What kind of hardcore fan are you??? :shocked:

I hope they play sorrow or infected

sweet. just bought my tickets to the san francisco show. at least it's not at the regency grand ballroom. that place sounds like shit!

Well, I hope they play life less frightening.

I see a few comments on the subject of Canada. I'm fairly sure that the shows that are listed on this site are the only ones that BR are going to be playing in on this tour. That means they won't be playing any shows in Canada, or anywhere outside of the US. Almost a month after the last US show, Rise Against is playing some festival in Toronto where they likely wouldn't even need an opening band, and it seems to be like a completely random show, not part of the tour, so I'm almost certain there will be no Canadian shows on this tour with BR playing.

I am SO excited for this, and even more excited that they're actually coming to my home town!!! The fact that they came to my town back in 2004 was a shock and something I thought would never happen ever again. I literally screamed when I read this, my coworkers thought I was getting attacked. Anyway, I am a little shocked that it appears that BR will be opening up for Rise Against. It's gotta be a typo...

Well, at least they are not opening up for Blink-182 like they did in 2000. That broke my heart.

I can see myself in the let them eat war vid.

[quote=SOLDSHORT]DO YOU GUYS EVER NOT BITCH ABOUT SOMETHING?[/quote]What's the point of living if you can't bitch?

[quote=SOLDSHORT]DO YOU GUYS EVER NOT BITCH ABOUT SOMETHING?[/quote]Ha Ha. Too many times these forums remind me of the SNL skit when William Shatner yells at the trekkies and tells them to get a lift. Personally, I'm happy BR is coming to STL, no matter where or with whom they play. (But I still want a full set ...)

DO YOU GUYS EVER NOT BITCH ABOUT SOMETHING?

To me it seems like BR will at least have a minimum of 45 minutes to play. I was hoping for an hour long set. I guess ill wait for some show reviews and setlists before i decided to make the journey out of state to see them

BR is way bigger than RA here in Finland. There's no way Rise Against could headline a festival like Ilosaarirock the way BR did last year.

St. Augustine is 30 minutes away from Jacksonville (and N.E. Florida has 1 million people). If BR's set is not short, I'll go....I drove to Orlando to see a full set....this is way closer. They better play at LEAST 45 minutes. I'm not fond of a lot of Punk bands...only BR. They're the only band that counts.

[quote=Neil Davis]Cody - yeah, that is technically correct. However, Rise Against sucks, and the best bands (i.e. Bad Religion) are typically supposed to be the "main band" in the tour.[/quote]The headliner is going to be the one that sells the most tickets. I think at this point Rise Against is big enough that it wouldn't make any sense for them to open for Bad Religion. I don't disagree that Bad Religion is the better band, but money runs the music business, and money says Rise Against as a headliner makes more sense.

I think there must be a mistake, no Canadian shows! that's a bunch of crap

[quote=nropevolI]I don't get it. Why would BR do this? So they can play shorter sets? I hope for the people who travell lots of miles to see them that they play at least 4 songs off the new album, like they did on the blink tour. It would suck to pay a great amount of money to not be surprised at all and only see a 'greatest hits' setlist[/quote]The shorter the setlists, the fewer the surprises. The interesting/different songs always seem to be first on the chopping block when they're needing to cut down on the number of songs.[quote=SOLDSHORT]much easier to jump on another band's larger tour. Can't play arenas or to a newer crowd by themselves.[/QUOTE] Quite a few of the venues on this tour are [i]exactly[/i] the same ones they played at in October and November. Nonsensical to go back as an opening band less than 6 months later.[quote=Woofsis]since I have yet to see BR live I'd even be fine with them being an opener. Hopefully they come to eastern Canada.[/quote]I hope for your sake they do make their way out there. Unfortunately, with Toronto and Montreal not even being on the list, it doesn't sound too promising.

much easier to jump on another band's larger tour. Can't play arenas or to a newer crowd by themselves.

I don't get it. Why would BR do this? So they can play shorter sets? I hope for the people who travell lots of miles to see them that they play at least 4 songs off the new album, like they did on the blink tour. It would suck to pay a great amount of money to not be surprised at all and only see a 'greatest hits' setlist

RA is an alright band in my opinion, and since I have yet to see BR live I'd even be fine with them being an opener. Hopefully they come to eastern Canada.

by the way, BR opening for RA, never gonna happen in Germany! and RA are very popular here.

[quote=kariscene]They go to Europe every summer. Don't worry.[/quote]but i think they still want to be asked...

[quote=Graffinius]Funny. Rise Against opened for Bad Religion at the filming of 'Live At The Palladium'. Apparently RA is more commercial? Or radio friendly? Who knows. They should be opening up for BR.[/quote]no. outside of CA rise against destroys BR in popularity.

They go to Europe every summer. Don't worry.

YEEES! But of course, no Europe yet :(

I'd love a euro part of this tour. Rise gotta be one of my favoutire bands even if they're weakened lately and not deserving headline over BR. Still they attract more people so kinda expected.

I'm just hoping this is a bit of a co-headlining tour. Maybe BR gets an hour??? They can kick out 20 songs efficiently in that amout of time. Going either way.

Funny. Rise Against opened for Bad Religion at the filming of 'Live At The Palladium'. Apparently RA is more commercial? Or radio friendly? Who knows. They should be opening up for BR.

I think RA is headlining because they have a new album coming out in 2011. They opened for BR at one point and a lot of times bands that become "mainstream" popular take bands out on the road that influenced them even though those bands aren't as mainstream (e.g. Nirvana taking out Butthole Surfers and Shonen Knife).

I'm not going to strongly rise against bad religion for four years !!! :p Bad Religion and Rise Against are my favorite bands so I would love to go to one of these shows (but I live in Switzerland so we'll see...) Indeed, it sucks that BR is opening but if [i]they[/i] agreed to support RA on their Endgame tour, that's fine by me.

[quote=Righteous Student]I used to be a big RA fan, now I think they are quite lame. I'm fine with all of the success. It's their live show that pisses me off. Tim gets up there for 75 minutes spewing his self aggrandizing rhetoric to a crowd full of meatheads and jocks. In my 15+ years of going to shows, I've never been more frustrated with the behavior of fans that the last time I saw RA at the Bumbershoot festival in Seattle. The first two records are amazing, the third very good, but it keeps going down hill from there. It is quite obvious that they have lost creative control of their music and are producing corporate radio hits. This is very ironic given their hardline stance against consumerism and the corporate structure. The sad part is I don't think they wanted it to be like this...shit just blew up and they got caught up. Just my 2cents.[/quote]I wholeheartedly agree with you. Last time I saw RA definitely was the last. BR only being the support band is more than wrong.

[quote=kariscene]:(. :(:(:(:(:( I am not driving 370 miles roundtrip to see an opening band :( VERY disappointing news.[/quote] Yeah I know what you mean. That's why I bought a helicopter.

[quote=BRP]I wonder where Jesse got the info. Hopefully Ticketmaster has it wrong, cuz a short show is better than no show.[/quote] We got it from the official Rise Against site. Just like delirium- said, according to Rise Against, BR will be playing all shows. We'll update the news as soon as we know more about this tour. :)

I don't know about ticketmaster but riseagainst.com is saying that BR plays all of the shows.

[quote=Righteous Student]I sure hope I can get down to LBC[/quote]on a mission tryin' to find Mista Graffin, G.

Wait a minute, they use to open for B.R. And Green Day and Offspring did the same. Open for B.R. And become arena bands, hehehe.

I used to be a big RA fan, now I think they are quite lame. I'm fine with all of the success. It's their live show that pisses me off. Tim gets up there for 75 minutes spewing his self aggrandizing rhetoric to a crowd full of meatheads and jocks. In my 15+ years of going to shows, I've never been more frustrated with the behavior of fans that the last time I saw RA at the Bumbershoot festival in Seattle. The first two records are amazing, the third very good, but it keeps going down hill from there. It is quite obvious that they have lost creative control of their music and are producing corporate radio hits. This is very ironic given their hardline stance against consumerism and the corporate structure. The sad part is I don't think they wanted it to be like this...shit just blew up and they got caught up. Just my 2cents. I sure hope I can get down to LBC to see the Descendents though. Caught em at Warped 96 but I was just a young punk then...too young to appreciate.

In the beginning of may, somes dates are missing for Montreal and Toronto... ! Oblivious?!?!?!?!?!?

when are you touring perth??

Cody - yeah, that is technically correct. However, Rise Against sucks, and the best bands (i.e. Bad Religion) are typically supposed to be the "main band" in the tour.

Rise Against is definitely supposed to be above Bad Religion, they're the main band in the tour.

[quote=mfw]no way i'd pay to see BR open for a mediocre rip off of themselves. and for the site, Pop's is technically in Sauget, IL not East St. Louis[/quote]According to Ticketmaster, BR isn't playing at Pop's either. I wonder where Jesse got the info. Hopefully Ticketmaster has it wrong, cuz a short show is better than no show.

No ALBBQ show? :(

It's kinda of cool that BR opens though, now I don't have to stick around for Rise Againsts set.

no way i'd pay to see BR open for a mediocre rip off of themselves. and for the site, Pop's is technically in Sauget, IL not East St. Louis

its their tour, they have a far bigger fanbase.... so its ok BR surely appreciates to have the opportunity to play in front of so many pot. new fans...

ARG. First I was disappointed to see another short show for Chicago... I was REALLY hoping for a full show! ...then when I went to Ticketmaster to find tickets, I see that BR is not even billed on the Chicago shows. I don't know who has the correct info. Hopefully it gets sorted out by Thursday when the tix go on sale.

Why no Detroit, WHYYY???

[quote=DaymanVersusNightman]Wow four shows in Illinois and one in Ohio but none in Detroit? I really wanna go see them but im not sure if its worth the drive and money to see them open.[/quote]Detroit to Ohio is worth it if you like them both. Plus I still regret missing the Pontiac show. I have to go.

Two nights in a row in Denver Im excited. I havent seen Rise Against in awhile so Im sure Ill go atleast one of the nights. I wish it was BR opening.

[quote=DaymanVersusNightman]Wow four shows in Illinois and one in Ohio but none in Detroit? I really wanna go see them but im not sure if its worth the drive and money to see them open.[/quote]With you on that entirely. Can't justify 11 hours on a bus or 7 hours in the car (not to mention the additional travel costs) for just 45 minutes of a show. That was the same reason I skipped the Riot Fest (fortunately, as they played a shortened version of the Detroit setlist from the previous night). A lot of very strange venue choices too. Outside in early May in Cleveland? EAST St Louis...lol...seriously? And most bizarre of all: St Augustine FL. Population: 12,000. With all that said, I really empathize with everyone in New Orleans. I've even asked Jay why they haven't been back since 2000. It makes NO sense.

Oh, so I guess this is RA tour and BR are just hopping along? This just show how humble they are and down to earth after all these years. My comment down there still stands, though

haha, an institution like BR is listed under RA (no offense) - it just doesn't make sense to me. RA need another 20 years to be in the same pot as BR

It says the descendants are playing the long beach show on punknews

Why is BR opening for Rise Against? Well, one lesson comes from when everyone freaked out a decade ago about why BR would open for Blink 182. The very simple answer BR provided? "They asked us to."

[quote=SOLDSHORT][quote=cool 2 hate 681]i will be at the long beach show with the descendants[/quote]prove it[/quote]i don't know the guys in the descendants they are just playing at the long beach show

Wow four shows in Illinois and one in Ohio but none in Detroit? I really wanna go see them but im not sure if its worth the drive and money to see them open.

I'm pretty excited. I do think it's weird that BR isn't headlining, but I still dig both bands. They're 2 out of my 3 favorite punk bands, so it'll still be a kickass time, I hope.

I hope Rise Against takes a while to get ready so that Bad Religion has more time to play.

[quote=cool 2 hate 681]i will be at the long beach show with the descendants[/quote]prove it

I'm not upset because they are opening, but would it really hurt if for once in 11 years they could stop in New Orleans? At least I am in Germany for the summer so I will see them there.

Bad Religion did play Riot Fest in Chicago. Minor punk rock event for us Midwesterners. You may have heard of it ;-)

ahhh only dates close to me are NYC and Boston and it just isn't in the funding right now to make the trek ....Youtube don't fail me now ! .

i will be at the long beach show with the descendants

awesome. i like both bands.

oh wait... I think Bad Religion is just opening... oh well.

OH MY GOD! I CAN'T FUCKING WAIT! I AM SO FUCKING HAPPY WOOOOOOOOH!

omg I'm so excited I hardly care that Rise Against is headlining!! Because if they were coming to Philly a week later I would have already left for the summer. But now I will see BR at least once this year for sure! :D :D Now I'm going to go off be in a really good mood for the rest of the day. :)

Is the poster seriously trying to put us to rise against BR?? lol ( We shall rise up and fight alongside BR and we shall never surrender!!! )

Hooray, I was the one that uploaded that video

I'm a pretty big BR fan, I did see them 9 times last year after all, and in 3 major cities. But I'm gonna skip this tour. And I even like Rise Against...mostly. But in LA at the huge Long Beach Arena and in SF at the Bill Graham? I know not all shows can be at the Troubadour, or even HOB, but still. Bah, I'll pass. Have fun, arena rockers.

I'm so confused, should I feel sick or happy?

:(. :(:(:(:(:( I am not driving 370 miles roundtrip to see an opening band :( VERY disappointing news.