i remember thread from so long ago.

[quote=Bad Brett]This isn't shot with a spycam. Obviously the iPhone was added in for a reason. I also see expensive clothes, a system camera, amplifiers, two guitars and the drum sticks tell us that there's a drumkit in the basement as well. He simply reminds me of one of those spoiled dudes who got everything they wanted from their parents.[/quote].. and lots of printer cartridges for all the flyers he downloaded from thebrpage.net.

[quote=jabberwock]when you "disagree" with a face, or a cell phone, or you try to define what punks should look and act like... then you tread the same tired ground that every ass kissing maximum rock and roll kid did... and all that got was a bunch of elitist fucktards telling everyone how to act. i don't care if you don't like the video, it's just a video. everyone can complain about whatever they want, but don't think that judging people for their looks, or their phone, or anything about their personality doesn't make you a shallow, judgmental asshole.[/quote]I think the problem many people are having is that while the purpose of the video obviously is to capture the feeling of a lonesome teenager ("alone with our music, inspired by the lyrics...us against the world") listenting to records on his own, at the same time he looks like the popular dude, a the guy who gets all the girls, has an expensive phone and so on. Someone most of us probably couldn't relate to. Of course, you could always argue that it's shallow to judge people by their looks, but isn't that kind of the purpose with a two-minute video? There's no time for a decent back story. We can't hear him talk. If we're going to discuss the video, we have to be shallow. This isn't shot with a spycam. Obviously the iPhone was added in for a reason. I also see expensive clothes, a system camera, amplifiers, two guitars and the drum sticks tell us that there's a drumkit in the basement as well. He simply reminds me of one of those spoiled dudes who got everything they wanted from their parents.

[quote=Brett Religion]You will all be in for a big big surprise when you soon find out that in fact this video is merely the FIRST of 16 (SIXTEEN!) chapters!!! Right, Jay? Right, right, right?!?! ;-/ That's right. As I had previously suggested to Brett via Twitter, it's going to be one story told in 16 videos, one for each song on the album. Soon to follow is Past Is Dead, our character going over old photos from two or three years ago back when he was into Justin Bieber and Katy Perry. But the Past Is Dead, now he's a punk rocker! And of course Fuck You is gonna have the main character watching the video of True North on the Internet and then visiting TheBRPage and reading the comments on this very same news story and saying Fuck You to all of us! I agree with HomerSapien. I love the cinematography and asthetics but I just wish they had put more thought into the 'script'...[/quote]THEY ALREADY SAID THEY WERE REMAKING TRAPPED IN THE CLOSET.

You will all be in for a big big surprise when you soon find out that in fact this video is merely the FIRST of 16 (SIXTEEN!) chapters!!! Right, Jay? Right, right, right?!?! ;-/ That's right. As I had previously suggested to Brett via Twitter, it's going to be one story told in 16 videos, one for each song on the album. Soon to follow is Past Is Dead, our character going over old photos from two or three years ago back when he was into Justin Bieber and Katy Perry. But the Past Is Dead, now he's a punk rocker! And of course Fuck You is gonna have the main character watching the video of True North on the Internet and then visiting TheBRPage and reading the comments on this very same news story and saying Fuck You to all of us! I agree with HomerSapien. I love the cinematography and asthetics but I just wish they had put more thought into the 'script'...

I should also mention that this is far from being their worst video, and I am genuinely happy that they chose to take this is in a different direction. I enjoyed the cinematography of it, I enjoyed the asthetics (or mise-en-scene if you wanna be a snob about it), and I'm quite interested to see what will be the next offering from both the band and Zach Merck. It was a risk that unfortunately I don't think paid off, but keep going and explore further! [small]Edited by HomerSapien[/small]

So, uh. I just want to iterate that I don't like the video not because of the way the kid looks or whatever all of the idiots are judging it on, but because I just don't think it's a compelling video. I don't like the video because, well, nothing really happens. I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THE INTENT OF THE VIDEO as it's trying to capture what we all have and will continue to experience when listening to an awesome song. We bob our head, we air drum, we think and plan, and then we start our day. It inspires us to do what we need to do. Cool! However, I just don't want to nor need to see that in a video. Those experiences are quite personal to us and differ amongst everybody. Maybe this video captured someone's personal experience perfectly, but it just didn't capture mine. I also get that it's supposed to make us ask questions like "Where is this kid going when he leaves?"; "What's he thinking?"; "Who is he texting?" For that, I applaud the video. I always love a film that provides little to no backstory to a situation, and this did it flawlessly. This is also where I think it's a missed opportunity, however, and also why most people do not like the video. There is nothing at stake, here. There's no beginning, there's no end, just the middle. It is just a looking glass portrait of what we believe to be a young kid listening to this track. This is most likely the intentions behind the video and it is achieved, but I just don't find it interesting enough. It could've brought more to the table, and maybe told a subtle story, or even added some sort of desparation to the kid's life which I'm sure most listeners of Bad Religion have and will continue to experience in their own lives. Anyway, that's my take on it. I'm writing this off of the top of my head so maybe some things don't make sense or some ideas aren't completely fleshed out, but hopefully this sheds more light on why some people don't like the video as opposed to the comments like "OMG JUSTIN BIEBER LOL". Also, I own a Blackberry #woops #sorry #guessimnotapunk

[quote=bound for glory]anyone else think that guy in the video prefers the company of men?[/quote] GTFO

anyone else think that guy in the video prefers the company of men?

[quote=Graffinius][quote=bound for glory]wow! that kid used SAFTY PINS for his back patch. you know hes punk! could they have picked a more "fake tv type" punk? [small]Edited by bound for glory[/small][/quote]that's not how you pin a patch? What if he's not handy with needle and thread? Is it more punk to ask your mommy to sew on your path? *roflmao (where's fatal btw)[/quote]speaking of mommies and punk. My mom found an old leather jacket of my Dad's buried in the back of her closet, and she asked me if I wanted it. I said "sure, if you let me spray paint it and put some BR patches on it". She didn't find any of that amusing, and quickly rescinded her offer.

[quote=bound for glory]wow! that kid used SAFTY PINS for his back patch. you know hes punk! could they have picked a more "fake tv type" punk? [small]Edited by bound for glory[/small][/quote]that's not how you pin a patch? What if he's not handy with needle and thread? Is it more punk to ask your mommy to sew on your path? *roflmao (where's -Fatal-, btw?) [small]Edited by Graffinius[/small]

lame video for a great song...

wow! that kid used SAFTY PINS for his back patch. you know hes punk! could they have picked a more "fake tv type" punk? [small]Edited by bound for glory[/small]

[quote=coop][quote=patricke1660]I'm not your pal, friend ...[/quote]Im not your pal, NTSC..[/quote]touche SECAM

go and film a video for "fuck armageddon...." . That's it. I don't care if it's a song from earlier ´80s

[quote=retrogamer]Good production quality, albeit very off-the-cuff. I think Bad Religion's message-heavy lyrics are inherently a difficult match for a music video. I consider American Jesus to be their best music video, and even that seemed disjointed in a lot of ways. Thankfully music videos aren't really important like they used to be back in the MTV days.[/quote] I take it some of you remember that film student who made a video for "who we are" years ago. That was just a school assignment and it was better than any video BR ever put out. In fact, IMO it was a really dam good effort that managed to fit the song really well. Not sure if it matched the lyrical content but either way it was a great effort.

[quote=patricke1660]I'm not your pal, friend ...[/quote]Im not your pal, NTSC..

Good production quality, albeit very off-the-cuff. I think Bad Religion's message-heavy lyrics are inherently a difficult match for a music video. I consider American Jesus to be their best music video, and even that seemed disjointed in a lot of ways. Thankfully music videos aren't really important like they used to be back in the MTV days.

I'm not your pal, friend ...

[quote=SOLDSHORT][quote=empire_br23]People can talk about this as much as they want buddy[/quote]I'M NOT YOUR BUDDY, GUY[/quote]I'm not your guy, pal.

[quote=empire_br23]People can talk about this as much as they want buddy[/quote]I'M NOT YOUR BUDDY, GUY

People can talk about this as much as they want buddy

ARE WE STILL TALKING ABOUT THIS? SHOULDN'T WE BE TALKING ABOUT TEH VIDEO FOR PAST IS DEAD?

[quote=posthc]this video seem like a promo to sell Lp's ahahah[/quote]

Can't believe what a little bitch fest some of you are having about this video. Also, I thought the Justin Bieber-look-alike comments were a bit of a stretch at first, but then I did a Google image search. [url=http://i.imgur.com/A9p6nfg.jpg]They are quite similar...[/url] haha! But you are all kidding yourselves if you don't think there are plenty of teenage punk who show up to BR shows who look more or less like this kid. I would ask, "Are you not entertained!?" but who really fucking cares? Go watch some other videos and move on if you didn't like this one.

Meh I could careless about the kid. Yeah he does look like Justin Bieber, and that is funny, but other than that who cares? Anyways I am just irked that the video stinks. I would rather watch Olivia Newton-John's Let's Get Physical!

I still want to know how this kid got such a great flier collection.

[quote=AndrewRanta]After giving it some time to sit, I think the only thing that bothers me about this video is the person in the video.[/quote]good point. i think its a cool simple concept but the kid is just a bit much.

It is Punk Rock Bieber!

After first viewing I didn't care for it that much. Then I read this entire thread, and watched it again, and for some reason I like it a lot more. Good work.

I'm a little sad

Now let's talk about feelings

[quote=spork][quote=patricke1660][quote=SOLDSHORT]cool are we done?[/quote]Srsly? No f'ing way. We are going to debate this topic for months.[/quote]OR... we could be putting all this energy into getting br that star on the hollywood walk of fame.. [/quote]There's a member here named SPORK who mentioned the same thing. You guys should team up

[quote=spork][quote=patricke1660][quote=SOLDSHORT]cool are we done?[/quote]Srsly? No f'ing way. We are going to debate this topic for months.[/quote]OR... we could be putting all this energy into getting br that star on the hollywood walk of fame.. [/quote]There's a member here named SPORK who mentioned the same thing. You guys should team up There's a member named SPORK going on about the walk of fame star too!

[quote=patricke1660][quote=SOLDSHORT]cool are we done?[/quote]Srsly? No f'ing way. We are going to debate this topic for months.[/quote] OR... we could be putting all this energy into getting br that star on the hollywood walk of fame..

[quote=SOLDSHORT]cool are we done?[/quote]Srsly? No f'ing way. We are going to debate this topic for months.

cool are we done?

epitaph uploaded the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2u6DeXvLDM

i actually like the video. it reminds me of myself when i was 16 and needed to hear just a couple of br songs before I went to school. they could have done more creative stuff like have greg graffin play the boy's dad who is arguing with him and sends him to his room..then the video like it is now..and we see him leaving the house and on the way to school or work there are some other BR members on the street or something [small]Edited by nropevolI[/small]

I don't see the meaning of this video.. it doesn't go with the song.. with the lyrics.. with anything! I mean... WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT?

this video seem like a promo to sell Lp's ahahah

[quote=Robo Pilgrim]What's with people saying the kid isn't punk? It's not like those are Good Charlotte posters on his wall.[/quote]because the modern punk is obsessed with clothing, duh

After giving it some time to sit, I think the only thing that bothers me about this video is the person in the video.

What's with people saying the kid isn't punk? It's not like those are Good Charlotte posters on his wall.

I think it's interesting that the fans give Bad Religion so much props and accolades for "doing their own thing" for 30 years, but as soon as they do their own thing and put out the video that THEY want to put out, it's "Waaaaah you guys put out a shit video, you should have done this blah blah should have done that blah blah". [small]Edited by Graffinius[/small]

Wow people are going a bit deep and meaningful over this aren't they lol. Got to love the "meaning of being punk" crap. I don't even think I am a punk. I just love Bad Religion and some other punk bands. Anyway, back to the video.... Lets face it folks, its not good. No biggy though, their videos are never good. Would be nice it they made a bit of effort with one but I am not losing sleep over it, as long as the quality of music stays the same then I will be happy.

Wow! It's a video. It nailed the idea of punk being a solitary kind of pursuit for some of us. Who cares what the kid looks like. My only complaint is that it's boring ...

[quote=SOLDSHORT]i think the true lesson here is... whoever thinks no substance is BR's best album should GTFO[/quote]SHUT IT

I think that, amongst things that make us better persons, one is trying not to be judgmental. It may sometimes be hard, but in they end, when we finally succeed, it makes us better. Punk-rock was one of the thing that taught me how to never judge someone based on his look or a feeling I have.... it also taught me how to let other people live their life the way they want it. Interestingly, I think True North is exactly about that, so if this video makes us talk that much about it, then it's mission accomplished, as Jay said... Gosh it's so great being a BR fan ! How many fans can say they discuss the meaning of a video clip with a founding member of the said-band ? only us :D

haha i check out the top site and it says "True North video - 50 comments" yesterday. i dont click. i check out the top site and it says "True North video - 138 comments" today. i click. i ask myself wtf happened here

[quote=CONTEXT][quote=empire_br23]Who cares what the kid looks like and what phone he uses because I bet that half of us here have either an iPhone or some sort of "smart"phone. I simply thought that this song deserved a better/more meaningful video to back this fantastic song up. Thats all![/quote]I have a android that I ran over with my rig (like big rig) and it still works. havent rplaced it since, if it aint broke, dont fix it. The screen is shattered, but i just use it to make calls. [small]Edited by CONTEXT[/small][/quote]I HAVE TWO PHONES. ONE FOR EACH HAND

[quote=jabberwock][quote=fantasticthepan]but jay, i think what many people in here are expressing is that this was an opportunity to continue to show the world (on perhaps an even larger scale given the success of the record) that truly being punk has nothing to do with carrying off the traditional aesthetic we associate with the scene. the video doesn't take the conversation forward; it recycles the same imagery, that of a homogenuous punk look, one that it always seemed to me was what was so great about br and its fanbase. this is a substantive band. in a way i take pride in the fact that graffin looks like a middle aged professorial couch potato rather than a cliche'd spikey haired punk. i always brag about this fact to my friends, about how my favorite band is ALL SUBSTANCE and doesn't adulterate its message by placing importance on traditional punk imagery.[/quote]i hope to god i never try to show the world what "true punk rock " is...[/quote]END OF DISCUSSION -CLOSED-

[quote=jabberwock][quote=fantasticthepan]but jay, i think what many people in here are expressing is that this was an opportunity to continue to show the world (on perhaps an even larger scale given the success of the record) that truly being punk has nothing to do with carrying off the traditional aesthetic we associate with the scene. the video doesn't take the conversation forward; it recycles the same imagery, that of a homogenuous punk look, one that it always seemed to me was what was so great about br and its fanbase. this is a substantive band. in a way i take pride in the fact that graffin looks like a middle aged professorial couch potato rather than a cliche'd spikey haired punk. i always brag about this fact to my friends, about how my favorite band is ALL SUBSTANCE and doesn't adulterate its message by placing importance on traditional punk imagery.[/quote]i hope to god i never try to show the world what "true punk rock " is...[/quote]You've shown them more than enough, more than enough. My guess is that sometimes they just don't get it. Just my guess.

[quote=empire_br23]Who cares what the kid looks like and what phone he uses because I bet that half of us here have either an iPhone or some sort of "smart"phone. I simply thought that this song deserved a better/more meaningful video to back this fantastic song up. Thats all![/quote]I have a android that I ran over with my rig (like big rig) and it still works. havent rplaced it since, if it aint broke, dont fix it. The screen is shattered, but i just use it to make calls. [small]Edited by CONTEXT[/small]

[quote=fantasticthepan]but jay, i think what many people in here are expressing is that this was an opportunity to continue to show the world (on perhaps an even larger scale given the success of the record) that truly being punk has nothing to do with carrying off the traditional aesthetic we associate with the scene. the video doesn't take the conversation forward; it recycles the same imagery, that of a homogenuous punk look, one that it always seemed to me was what was so great about br and its fanbase. this is a substantive band. in a way i take pride in the fact that graffin looks like a middle aged professorial couch potato rather than a cliche'd spikey haired punk. i always brag about this fact to my friends, about how my favorite band is ALL SUBSTANCE and doesn't adulterate its message by placing importance on traditional punk imagery.[/quote]i hope to god i never try to show the world what "true punk rock " is...

[quote=Groomits][quote=jabberwock] it's just a video. everyone can complain about whatever they want, but don't think that judging people for their looks, or their phone, or anything about their personality doesn't make you a shallow, judgmental asshole.[/quote]I don't know if this was directed to me. But I'm not the one who made comments about the guy's phone or personality. Yeah, I don't really like the video, but in the comments I made, I wasn't being harsh. I also said some positive things. And I'm aware I can't judge that guy, as I don't know him at all. I only said he looked too stereotyped. I don't know why I'm being targetted.[/quote]i apologize if i appear to be targeting you. i am not. i was using your quote as a platform for a larger discussion...

Who cares what the kid looks like and what phone he uses because I bet that half of us here have either an iPhone or some sort of "smart"phone. I simply thought that this song deserved a better/more meaningful video to back this fantastic song up. Thats all!

[quote=I forgot my password]Honestly , I think the video totally embodies the meaning of the song .[/quote]I actually agree, everyone has their nit-picks, Im no different, but over-all I felt it embodied a very farmiliar feeling that I had within myself, everytime I sat down with a new pennywise or bad religion record when I was younger, but even to this day.... aside from the trivial nonsense like what the kid was wearing etc.... when you hear an awesome song like True North, and you read the lyrics, you get hyped, it is motivating.

[quote=jabberwock][quote=Groomits]A punk fan can't judge or criticize? I disagree. Punk is not an excuse for accepting everything you don't like or disagree with. But that said, it's only a music video, and we know it's not BR's forte... :)[/quote] when you "disagree" with a face, or a cell phone, or you try to define what punks should look and act like... then you tread the same tired ground that every ass kissing maximum rock and roll kid did... and all that got was a bunch of elitist fucktards telling everyone how to act. i don't care if you don't like the video, it's just a video. everyone can complain about whatever they want, but don't think that judging people for their looks, or their phone, or anything about their personality doesn't make you a shallow, judgmental asshole.[/quote]but jay, i think what many people in here are expressing is that this was an opportunity to continue to show the world (on perhaps an even larger scale given the success of the record) that truly being punk has nothing to do with carrying off the traditional aesthetic we associate with the scene. the video doesn't take the conversation forward; it recycles the same imagery, that of a homogenuous punk look, one that it always seemed to me was what was so great about br and its fanbase. this is a substantive band. in a way i take pride in the fact that graffin looks like a middle aged professorial couch potato rather than a cliche'd spikey haired punk. i always brag about this fact to my friends, about how my favorite band is ALL SUBSTANCE and doesn't adulterate its message by placing importance on traditional punk imagery.

Honestly , I think the video totally embodies the meaning of the song .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4aaal3jXYE fastfarwards to 0:52

[quote=Evolution][quote=SOLDSHORT][quote=Evolution][quote=SOLDSHORT][quote=Evolution][quote=SOLDSHORT][quote=Evolution][quote=CONTEXT]The irony in the majority of this thread is that us "punk fans" have become the judgemental pricks that we always hated. True North.[/quote]Punk is a reactive movement and thus has the natural built force of judgements within its essence. If one cannot adress the faults that derivates from a non-punk perspective, then one cannot react. This is simply the way of us "punks" saying that this video is non-punk, commersially aimed and without recognition in relation to who we as a punk network always have identified us with. Within the nature of reaction there will always be an element of "judgement" involved.[/quote]most "punks" that i knew growing up didnt have a fucking clue about what punk is and still think its defined by how you look and to that its GTFO. [small]Edited by SOLDSHORT[/small][/quote]If you read my post that way you completely missed my point.[/quote]and if you read my post that way then you completely missed my point[/quote]The point is that you didn't have a point on which people could be mistaken. Just like the rest of your typical one line posts on this forum, you seldom have any point with what you post. The post was not about clothes, just FYI.[/quote]my post wasn't about clothes either, FYI. It was a specific example of the lapse of mental judgement that most punks have that should exclude them from judging anyone else to begin with. Your post is trying to explain how its cool to judge this video as non punk because the guy is not classified as punk (or too punk) by whatever standards you have set forth. I really shouldn't have to explain myself as you already have this figured out. check out the big brain on brad is what i always say. youse a smart motherfucka thats right.[/quote]It's not about the guy in the vid at all; my viewpoint is from the general perspective of how you could describe the general punk attitude in relation to the format of this video. The reaction and disagreement that this vid has generated among most of us is the result of it falling out of what most of us consider as the idea of punk and its theories on society - regardless of the poor emo guy in the vid. So my reflection was more an attempt of an angle towards understanding why people react, rather than trying to explain why this video doesn't work within the framwork of what has become an institution - Bad Religion.[/quote]Why people react is the easy question...

[quote=SOLDSHORT][quote=Evolution][quote=SOLDSHORT][quote=Evolution][quote=SOLDSHORT][quote=Evolution][quote=CONTEXT]The irony in the majority of this thread is that us "punk fans" have become the judgemental pricks that we always hated. True North.[/quote]Punk is a reactive movement and thus has the natural built force of judgements within its essence. If one cannot adress the faults that derivates from a non-punk perspective, then one cannot react. This is simply the way of us "punks" saying that this video is non-punk, commersially aimed and without recognition in relation to who we as a punk network always have identified us with. Within the nature of reaction there will always be an element of "judgement" involved.[/quote]most "punks" that i knew growing up didnt have a fucking clue about what punk is and still think its defined by how you look and to that its GTFO. [small]Edited by SOLDSHORT[/small][/quote]If you read my post that way you completely missed my point.[/quote]and if you read my post that way then you completely missed my point[/quote]The point is that you didn't have a point on which people could be mistaken. Just like the rest of your typical one line posts on this forum, you seldom have any point with what you post. The post was not about clothes, just FYI.[/quote]my post wasn't about clothes either, FYI. It was a specific example of the lapse of mental judgement that most punks have that should exclude them from judging anyone else to begin with. Your post is trying to explain how its cool to judge this video as non punk because the guy is not classified as punk (or too punk) by whatever standards you have set forth. I really shouldn't have to explain myself as you already have this figured out. check out the big brain on brad is what i always say. youse a smart motherfucka thats right.[/quote]It's not about the guy in the vid at all; my viewpoint is from the general perspective of how you could describe the general punk attitude in relation to the format of this video. The reaction and disagreement that this vid has generated among most of us is the result of it falling out of what most of us consider as the idea of punk and its theories on society - regardless of the poor emo guy in the vid. So my reflection was more an attempt of an angle towards understanding why people react, rather than trying to explain why this video doesn't work within the framwork of what has become an institution - Bad Religion.

[quote=CONTEXT][quote=SOLDSHORT][quote=Evolution][quote=CONTEXT][quote=SOLDSHORT][quote=Evolution]Punk is an attitude. An attitude is a feeling or a stance towards something. That in turn is experienced as arrogance or prejudicm to others by nature, while it is natural and the "right" cause for the "punker". In light of this you could conclude that the attitude of all of us in here and Bad Religion for that matter, is inavoidably judgmental in its shape.[/quote]lolz the swede is finding the neutrality. sorry its funny... .... . .. .. .. . dont be a girl and over analyze.[/quote]That is pretty fucking hilarious[/quote]The hilarious part is actually that he contradict himself by being both a sexist and prejudice in one sentence. Impressive.[/quote]lolz see? you get it.[/quote]I saw that before, But i did'nt want to vomit 4loko allover this conversation.[/quote]I just thought the "neutral" sweden reference was hilarious......

[quote=SOLDSHORT][quote=Evolution][quote=CONTEXT][quote=SOLDSHORT][quote=Evolution]Punk is an attitude. An attitude is a feeling or a stance towards something. That in turn is experienced as arrogance or prejudicm to others by nature, while it is natural and the "right" cause for the "punker". In light of this you could conclude that the attitude of all of us in here and Bad Religion for that matter, is inavoidably judgmental in its shape.[/quote]lolz the swede is finding the neutrality. sorry its funny... .... . .. .. .. . dont be a girl and over analyze.[/quote]That is pretty fucking hilarious[/quote]The hilarious part is actually that he contradict himself by being both a sexist and prejudice in one sentence. Impressive.[/quote]lolz see? you get it.[/quote]I saw that before, But i did'nt want to vomit 4loko allover this conversation.

[quote=Evolution][quote=CONTEXT][quote=SOLDSHORT][quote=Evolution]Punk is an attitude. An attitude is a feeling or a stance towards something. That in turn is experienced as arrogance or prejudicm to others by nature, while it is natural and the "right" cause for the "punker". In light of this you could conclude that the attitude of all of us in here and Bad Religion for that matter, is inavoidably judgmental in its shape.[/quote]lolz the swede is finding the neutrality. sorry its funny... .... . .. .. .. . dont be a girl and over analyze.[/quote]That is pretty fucking hilarious[/quote]The hilarious part is actually that he contradict himself by being both a sexist and prejudice in one sentence. Impressive.[/quote]lolz see? you get it.

[quote=Evolution][quote=SOLDSHORT][quote=Evolution][quote=SOLDSHORT][quote=Evolution][quote=CONTEXT]The irony in the majority of this thread is that us "punk fans" have become the judgemental pricks that we always hated. True North.[/quote]Punk is a reactive movement and thus has the natural built force of judgements within its essence. If one cannot adress the faults that derivates from a non-punk perspective, then one cannot react. This is simply the way of us "punks" saying that this video is non-punk, commersially aimed and without recognition in relation to who we as a punk network always have identified us with. Within the nature of reaction there will always be an element of "judgement" involved.[/quote]most "punks" that i knew growing up didnt have a fucking clue about what punk is and still think its defined by how you look and to that its GTFO. [small]Edited by SOLDSHORT[/small][/quote]If you read my post that way you completely missed my point.[/quote]and if you read my post that way then you completely missed my point[/quote]The point is that you didn't have a point on which people could be mistaken. Just like the rest of your typical one line posts on this forum, you seldom have any point with what you post. The post was not about clothes, just FYI.[/quote]my post wasn't about clothes either, FYI. It was a specific example of the lapse of mental judgement that most punks have that should exclude them from judging anyone else to begin with. Your post is trying to explain how its cool to judge this video as non punk because the guy is not classified as punk (or too punk) by whatever standards you have set forth. I really shouldn't have to explain myself as you already have this figured out. check out the big brain on brad is what i always say. youse a smart motherfucka thats right.

[quote=CONTEXT][quote=SOLDSHORT][quote=Evolution]Punk is an attitude. An attitude is a feeling or a stance towards something. That in turn is experienced as arrogance or prejudicm to others by nature, while it is natural and the "right" cause for the "punker". In light of this you could conclude that the attitude of all of us in here and Bad Religion for that matter, is inavoidably judgmental in its shape.[/quote]lolz the swede is finding the neutrality. sorry its funny... .... . .. .. .. . dont be a girl and over analyze.[/quote]That is pretty fucking hilarious[/quote]The hilarious part is actually that he contradict himself by being both a sexist and prejudice in one sentence. Impressive.

[quote=SOLDSHORT][quote=Evolution][quote=SOLDSHORT][quote=Evolution][quote=CONTEXT]The irony in the majority of this thread is that us "punk fans" have become the judgemental pricks that we always hated. True North.[/quote]Punk is a reactive movement and thus has the natural built force of judgements within its essence. If one cannot adress the faults that derivates from a non-punk perspective, then one cannot react. This is simply the way of us "punks" saying that this video is non-punk, commersially aimed and without recognition in relation to who we as a punk network always have identified us with. Within the nature of reaction there will always be an element of "judgement" involved.[/quote]most "punks" that i knew growing up didnt have a fucking clue about what punk is and still think its defined by how you look and to that its GTFO. [small]Edited by SOLDSHORT[/small][/quote]If you read my post that way you completely missed my point.[/quote]and if you read my post that way then you completely missed my point[/quote]The point is that you didn't have a point on which people could be mistaken. Just like the rest of your typical one line posts on this forum, you seldom have any point with what you post. The post was not about clothes, just FYI.

[quote=Groomits][quote=jabberwock] it's just a video. everyone can complain about whatever they want, but don't think that judging people for their looks, or their phone, or anything about their personality doesn't make you a shallow, judgmental asshole.[/quote]I don't know if this was directed to me. But I'm not the one who made comments about the guy's phone or personality. Yeah, I don't really like the video, but in the comments I made, I wasn't being harsh. I also said some positive things. And I'm aware I can't judge that guy, as I don't know him at all. I only said he looked too stereotyped. I don't know why I'm being targetted.[/quote]this is why we can't have nice things

[quote=jabberwock] it's just a video. everyone can complain about whatever they want, but don't think that judging people for their looks, or their phone, or anything about their personality doesn't make you a shallow, judgmental asshole.[/quote]I don't know if this was directed to me. But I'm not the one who made comments about the guy's phone or personality. Yeah, I don't really like the video, but in the comments I made, I wasn't being harsh. I also said some positive things. And I'm aware I can't judge that guy, as I don't know him at all. I only said he looked too stereotyped. I don't know why I'm being targetted.

[quote=SOLDSHORT][quote=Evolution]Punk is an attitude. An attitude is a feeling or a stance towards something. That in turn is experienced as arrogance or prejudicm to others by nature, while it is natural and the "right" cause for the "punker". In light of this you could conclude that the attitude of all of us in here and Bad Religion for that matter, is inavoidably judgmental in its shape.[/quote]lolz the swede is finding the neutrality. sorry its funny... .... . .. .. .. . dont be a girl and over analyze.[/quote]That is pretty fucking hilarious

[quote=Evolution]Punk is an attitude. An attitude is a feeling or a stance towards something. That in turn is experienced as arrogance or prejudicm to others by nature, while it is natural and the "right" cause for the "punker". In light of this you could conclude that the attitude of all of us in here and Bad Religion for that matter, is inavoidably judgmental in its shape.[/quote]lolz the swede is finding the neutrality. sorry its funny... .... . .. .. .. . dont be a girl and over analyze.

[quote=Evolution][quote=SOLDSHORT][quote=Evolution][quote=CONTEXT]The irony in the majority of this thread is that us "punk fans" have become the judgemental pricks that we always hated. True North.[/quote]Punk is a reactive movement and thus has the natural built force of judgements within its essence. If one cannot adress the faults that derivates from a non-punk perspective, then one cannot react. This is simply the way of us "punks" saying that this video is non-punk, commersially aimed and without recognition in relation to who we as a punk network always have identified us with. Within the nature of reaction there will always be an element of "judgement" involved.[/quote]most "punks" that i knew growing up didnt have a fucking clue about what punk is and still think its defined by how you look and to that its GTFO. [small]Edited by SOLDSHORT[/small][/quote]If you read my post that way you completely missed my point.[/quote]and if you read my post that way then you completely missed my point

Punk is an attitude. An attitude is a feeling or a stance towards something. That in turn is experienced as arrogance or prejudicm to others by nature, while it is natural and the "right" cause for the "punker". In light of this you could conclude that the attitude of all of us in here and Bad Religion for that matter, is inavoidably judgmental in its shape.

[quote=SOLDSHORT][quote=Evolution][quote=CONTEXT]The irony in the majority of this thread is that us "punk fans" have become the judgemental pricks that we always hated. True North.[/quote]Punk is a reactive movement and thus has the natural built force of judgements within its essence. If one cannot adress the faults that derivates from a non-punk perspective, then one cannot react. This is simply the way of us "punks" saying that this video is non-punk, commersially aimed and without recognition in relation to who we as a punk network always have identified us with. Within the nature of reaction there will always be an element of "judgement" involved.[/quote]most "punks" that i knew growing up didnt have a fucking clue about what punk is and still think its defined by how you look and to that its GTFO. [small]Edited by SOLDSHORT[/small][/quote]If you read my post that way you completely missed my point.

[quote=SOLDSHORT][quote=DaymanVersusNightman]That kid looks like a bitch.[/quote]MARCELLUS WALLACE3D[/quote]say what again

[quote=SOLDSHORT][quote=Evolution][quote=CONTEXT]The irony in the majority of this thread is that us "punk fans" have become the judgemental pricks that we always hated. True North.[/quote]Punk is a reactive movement and thus has the natural built force of judgements within its essence. If one cannot adress the faults that derivates from a non-punk perspective, then one cannot react. This is simply the way of us "punks" saying that this video is non-punk, commersially aimed and without recognition in relation to who we as a punk network always have identified us with. Within the nature of reaction there will always be an element of "judgement" involved.[/quote]most "punks" that i knew grewing didnt have a fucking clue about what punk is and still think its defined by how you look and to that its GTFO.[/quote]I grew up under similar circumstances, but all those "garage punks" that were too hardcore to appreciate a PW or BR album when I was younger ended up being the ones who outgrew punk rock altogether, and moved on to be the power 106 bumbing automatons that they claimed to be against in the first place.

i think the true lesson here is... whoever thinks no substance is BR's best album should GTFO

[quote=Evolution][quote=CONTEXT]The irony in the majority of this thread is that us "punk fans" have become the judgemental pricks that we always hated. True North.[/quote]Punk is a reactive movement and thus has the natural built force of judgements within its essence. If one cannot adress the faults that derivates from a non-punk perspective, then one cannot react. This is simply the way of us "punks" saying that this video is non-punk, commersially aimed and without recognition in relation to who we as a punk network always have identified us with. Within the nature of reaction there will always be an element of "judgement" involved.[/quote]most "punks" that i knew growing up didnt have a fucking clue about what punk is and still think its defined by how you look and to that its GTFO. [small]Edited by SOLDSHORT[/small]

Madlibs time Well you see, [u](name of poster)[/u] What I'm trying to say is... I think that [u](celebrity)[/u] is a [u](really big words)[/u] example of [u](author, author's book title) [/u] description of [u](Scientific/sociological concept)[/u] Anyways, Whatever yo, you can take a/an [u](adjective)[/u] [u](noun)[/u] and [u](verb)[/u] it with a [u](kitchen item/office furniture)[/u] , pal. Because that's what the punx is all aboot. Oh yeah, [u] (obscure movie reference)[/u]

[quote=DaymanVersusNightman]That kid looks like a bitch.[/quote]MARCELLUS WALLACE3D

[quote=jabberwock][quote=CONTEXT](in the voice of Stewie) this is why i'm not having my own children, this thread right here......[/quote]or, conversely, have children, educate them about such things and populate the world with good people[/quote]I'm at least trying to be there and a good influence for me ex-fiances kid, who will never know his biological-father. I appreciate that, I will do my darndest. [small]Edited by CONTEXT[/small]

That kid looks like a bitch.

[quote=CONTEXT](in the voice of Stewie) this is why i'm not having my own children, this thread right here......[/quote]or, conversely, have children, educate them about such things and populate the world with good people

[quote=CONTEXT](in the voice of Stewie) this is why i'm not having my own children, this thread right here......[/quote]you have somebody elses children?

(in the voice of Stewie) this is why i'm not having my own children, this thread right here......

[quote=Groomits][quote=jabberwock][quote=Groomits] But the thing is, no Bad Religion fan looks like this. Never saw a guy like this at a BR show... [/quote]never... i wonder how many kids like this i have seen at a br show? care to take a guess?[/quote]I wasn't very sure if you were saying you saw a lot or not very much... But I guess what I wanted to say is I don't think the average BR fan looks like that guy. I saw quite a lot of nerdie guys at BR shows, but I don't think I'll ever see one in a video.[/quote]Yeah. Lets all be average!

[quote=Groomits]A punk fan can't judge or criticize? I disagree. Punk is not an excuse for accepting everything you don't like or disagree with. But that said, it's only a music video, and we know it's not BR's forte... :)[/quote] when you "disagree" with a face, or a cell phone, or you try to define what punks should look and act like... then you tread the same tired ground that every ass kissing maximum rock and roll kid did... and all that got was a bunch of elitist fucktards telling everyone how to act. i don't care if you don't like the video, it's just a video. everyone can complain about whatever they want, but don't think that judging people for their looks, or their phone, or anything about their personality doesn't make you a shallow, judgmental asshole.

That is of, course, to ignore how a punk who criticizes something/anything is already-interpellated into hegemony. The whole 'Justin Bieber gay' crap that's cropped up once or twice isn't speaking from some de-centred, impartial or anarchical perspective, but from the very perspective of the prevailing homophobic, phallogocentric regime. This is why the song "fuck you" is partially a critique of a 'pavlovian' form of rebellion - something we are all conditioned by rather than something to which we achieve formal emancipation. "It takes no form at all." But whatever, that kid is such a faaaaggoooott

Punk's can criticize or disagree with anything, that's the basis of the anarchy of it. That is indeed the beauty of it. The anarchy of the thought process. But judgement on the surface is far from anarchy, and in my opinion, "judging a book by it's cover" is far from the punk rock mindset. Thats just popular opinion, based on what you have seen and heard, and last time I checked since I was 9, now im (holy shit im 27 im getting old!) 27 , that's not so punk rock. Look at Greg, if you had never hear of him or seen him before and you met him in a grocery store, would you sit there and think, hey, that guy is a punker......

It's not like other bad religion videos. But I think it's funny that the guy kind of looks like justin bieber : ) Better idea for this video: They could have had the band playing in an arctic desert with old-timey "punk" geologists (a-la steam punk style) on an expedition to find "true north" but in the end they are curious to discover all the band members frozen in place, "mid-performance".

A punk fan can't judge or criticize? I disagree. Punk is not an excuse for accepting everything you don't like or disagree with. But that said, it's only a music video, and we know it's not BR's forte... :)

[quote=CONTEXT]The irony in the majority of this thread is that us "punk fans" have become the judgemental pricks that we always hated. True North.[/quote] this

[quote=Amoeba]Common, as I said on forum, what's the problem with the style of the kid ? For people claiming open-minds, punk spirit etc, you're pretty close-minded. They are a lot of guys dressing up like him, or mohawk, spikes whatever, and lots who don't. This is why we're supposed to like punk. They are a lot of different people at a BR show, maybe it varies depending of location, but that is great. I don't care someone buy his clothes at Hot Topic or Payless or Gucci. If he listens to punk, BR or old-school basic hardcore and smaller bands, and goes to shows, do something DYI, support the artists by buying records etc, and call himself for this reason, or even another, a "punk", then it's punk. This video is nice ( not the best I've seen tough) it's arty in the good sense, the song is awesome and that's it.[/quote]You have some good points. But punk is not an excuse for accepting stereotyped commercial cliches.

[quote=Evolution][quote=CONTEXT]The irony in the majority of this thread is that us "punk fans" have become the judgemental pricks that we always hated. True North.[/quote]Punk is a reactive movement and thus has the natural built force of judgements within its essence. If one cannot adress the faults that derivates from a non-punk perspective, then one cannot react. This is simply the way of us "punks" saying that this video is non-punk, commersially aimed and without recognition in relation to who we as a punk network always have identified us with. Within the nature of reaction there will always be an element of "judgement" involved.[/quote]Okay, i guess. Look I didnt like the video either, but I didn't want to delve into the symbolic message of why I think they portrayed that kid with Crosses as earing etc. etc. I was totally Christian when I got into bad religion, but simultaneously became fascinated with science at the same time as bad religion pennywise nofx, descendants casualties, tsol, naked aggression, oxymoron, litmus gree, Bad religion was the only band that inspired me to thoroughly question my worldview though, and the validity of it. That had a positive impact on my life altogether. (im still a fuck up, kinda, i hold my own and all but im kinda still just kinda sorta fucked up- four loko) but the video wasnt that bad.... it wasnt what i was expecting, but then again, bad religion's song titles alone end up shattering my expectations once i hear the songs, which actually kinda makes it all that much better.

[quote=CONTEXT]The irony in the majority of this thread is that us "punk fans" have become the judgemental pricks that we always hated. True North.[/quote]Punk is a reactive movement and thus has the natural built force of judgements within its essence. If one cannot adress the faults that derivates from a non-punk perspective, then one cannot react. This is simply the way of us "punks" saying that this video is non-punk, commersially aimed and without recognition in relation to who we as a punk network always have identified us with. Within the nature of reaction there will always be an element of "judgement" involved.

The irony in the majority of this thread is that us "punk fans" have become the judgemental pricks that we always hated. True North.

[quote=oldmrfletcher]acceptance and open-mindedness is great and all, but if i ever see some dude wearing gucci at a br show i might die of laughter[/quote]Actaully the handcraft of Gucci is a better way to support anti-exploation than your normal brands. They have the exclsivness to carry so they usually manufactur their products locally and thir more luxury lines hand made. All of this generates the avoidance of using humans as slaves in poorer countries unlike how the cheaper brands do. [small]Edited by Evolution[/small]

acceptance and open-mindedness is great and all, but if i ever see some dude wearing gucci at a br show i might die of laughter

Common, as I said on forum, what's the problem with the style of the kid ? For people claiming open-minds, punk spirit etc, you're pretty close-minded. They are a lot of guys dressing up like him, or mohawk, spikes whatever, and lots who don't. This is why we're supposed to like punk. They are a lot of different people at a BR show, maybe it varies depending of location, but that is great. I don't care someone buy his clothes at Hot Topic or Payless or Gucci. If he listens to punk, BR or old-school basic hardcore and smaller bands, and goes to shows, do something DYI, support the artists by buying records etc, and call himself for this reason, or even another, a "punk", then it's punk. This video is nice ( not the best I've seen tough) it's arty in the good sense, the song is awesome and that's it.

[quote=jabberwock][quote=Groomits] But the thing is, no Bad Religion fan looks like this. Never saw a guy like this at a BR show... [/quote]never... i wonder how many kids like this i have seen at a br show? care to take a guess?[/quote]I wasn't very sure if you were saying you saw a lot or not very much... But I guess what I wanted to say is I don't think the average BR fan looks like that guy. I saw quite a lot of nerdie guys at BR shows, but I don't think I'll ever see one in a video.

I don't get all the Bieber-look-alike-bashing. He's a good looking kid (the kid in the video, not Bieber, and he doesn't look very "emo" to me), I guess you are just jealous that he's better looking than you.

@ 00:12 that's [u]you [/u]!,in the video.. so there's nothing to dismay punk.

What a boring video. I see what they were going for, but it's just not interesting to watch at all.

Video coulda been better, True north is still my favorite song.

[quote=Brian]Remember the video for Los Angeles is Burning? Or for American Jesus? Hell, even Sorrow? Actually, I think Bad Religion lost their way music video-wise at Wrong Way Kids (even Honest Goodbye had the band in it). As much as I LOVE Bad Religion, I feel like as much effort, imagination, creativity and personality as they put into their music, they put that much less effort into the videos which is a shame. These could be killer, but alas...[/quote]But Wrong Way Kids is an excellent video.

Buy Vinyls, that's what true punks do.

Most unnecessary music video ever...

[quote=simian]In the first 20 seconds or so of the video, I was like "WTF is this?" ... but as it progressed I realized that this is actually an incredible video, because it captures the significance of music to punks (and anyone, really) who often listen to it alone, privately, to pump themselves up before facing the world outside. I know this has been how I've often listened to bad religion... before going out to a show or even to work or school. Just rocking out to one song real quick to get the blood flowing. Great stuff, guys... I hope we get to see at least one other video from this album too! [/quote] This. I like how the last couple of videos have been all about the fans.

SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA WILL DESTROY YOU Jay do you have the matching necklace still?

[quote=jabberwock][quote=Groomits] But the thing is, no Bad Religion fan looks like this. Never saw a guy like this at a BR show... [/quote]never... i wonder how many kids like this i have seen at a br show? care to take a guess?[/quote]One. When JB was your opening act.

this looks like it should have been a music video for a song from Into The Unknown.

I see kids like that at almost every BR show I go to. Maybe replace the crossbuster jacket with a misfits jacket or something, but pretty much the same style. [small]Edited by torbar[/small]

[quote=Groomits] But the thing is, no Bad Religion fan looks like this. Never saw a guy like this at a BR show... [/quote]never... i wonder how many kids like this i have seen at a br show? care to take a guess?

Simian got the best explanation if you want to convince yourself that it's a good video... But the thing is, no Bad Religion fan looks like this. Never saw a guy like this at a BR show... So it's hard for us to relate to that cliche punk guy. Looks like they were targetting an audience of 13 years old little wanabe punks... I think the quality of the video is not bad though. They could've made a good video with the same kind of shooting and black and white stuff.

[quote=Diego Hosen]I would like a video for "Crisis time" or "Nothing to dismay" or maybe for "Popular consensus", but PLEASE don't be lazy next time and don't include emo gay "punks" in the video. Thank you.[/quote]Ugh........uGHHH

I think Robin hood in reverse or past is dead would be a better choice for a video.

lol that was pure caca. yikes.

I can't even finish watching this it's so bad.

stop watching music

[quote=posthc]strange video ..... seem like a homemade vid i make on my room :/[/quote][quote=posthc]strange video ..... seem like a homemade vid i make on my room :/[/quote]IT IS YOU..

strange video ..... seem like a homemade vid i make on my room :/

I don't like it

I'm not even sure what that was supposed to be. That said, this album is so good, they could put out videos of mimes playing Connect Four and I wouldn't care.

Sorry but this is a pretty terrible video.

I love bad religion but that has to be the worst music video of all time. What a shame too because it is a great song. BTW Is that Justin Bieber?

[quote=SOLDSHORT] nice to meet you[/quote]Likewise. :P

[quote=frod79]You guys won't be satisfied until you see Baker wearing a Slash wig and oversized hat playing the November Rain solo to SHEOS the movie...won't you?! [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vx-OQx3ohc&feature=youtu.be&t=38s[/url] [small]Edited by frod79[/small][/quote]BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA AAH AHA AHA AHA HA HAH AAAAAAAAAAH

[quote=NewLeaf]I am disappoint. Seriously, that was terrible.[/quote]nice to meet you

You guys won't be satisfied until you see Baker wearing a Slash wig and oversized hat playing the November Rain solo to SHEOS the movie...won't you?! [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vx-OQx3ohc&feature=youtu.be&t=38s[/url] [small]Edited by frod79[/small]

I think that's terrific.

[quote=jabberwock]ahhhh... you kids today. so rebellious.[/quote]GET OFF MY LAWN

I am disappoint. Seriously, that was terrible.

Remember the video for Los Angeles is Burning? Or for American Jesus? Hell, even Sorrow? Actually, I think Bad Religion lost their way music video-wise at Wrong Way Kids (even Honest Goodbye had the band in it). As much as I LOVE Bad Religion, I feel like as much effort, imagination, creativity and personality as they put into their music, they put that much less effort into the videos which is a shame. These could be killer, but alas...

THIS IS JUST BRILLIANT! It's the bestes music video ever!

its no punk rawk song guise thats for sure. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qf_g3bdzfe4

I'm just glad that biebs is getting his due now.

[quote=Diego Hosen]I would like a video for "Crisis time" or "Nothing to dismay" or maybe for "Popular consensus", but PLEASE don't be lazy next time and don't include emo gay "punks" in the video. Thank you.[/quote]THIS IS CEREAL GUISE.

[quote=simian]In the first 20 seconds or so of the video, I was like "WTF is this?" ... but as it progressed I realized that this is actually an incredible video, because it captures the significance of music to punks (and anyone, really) who often listen to it alone, privately, to pump themselves up before facing the world outside. I know this has been how I've often listened to bad religion... before going out to a show or even to work or school. Just rocking out to one song real quick to get the blood flowing. Great stuff, guys... I hope we get to see at least one other video from this album too! EDIT: I posted my thoughts before reading any of yours. Wow, what a bunch of debbie downers. I stand by my opinion. [small]Edited by simian[/small][/quote]tell us moar on how you stand by your opinion

I would like a video for "Crisis time" or "Nothing to dismay" or maybe for "Popular consensus", but PLEASE don't be lazy next time and don't include emo gay "punks" in the video. Thank you.

In the first 20 seconds or so of the video, I was like "WTF is this?" ... but as it progressed I realized that this is actually an incredible video, because it captures the significance of music to punks (and anyone, really) who often listen to it alone, privately, to pump themselves up before facing the world outside. I know this has been how I've often listened to bad religion... before going out to a show or even to work or school. Just rocking out to one song real quick to get the blood flowing. Great stuff, guys... I hope we get to see at least one other video from this album too! EDIT: I posted my thoughts before reading any of yours. Wow, what a bunch of debbie downers. I stand by my opinion. [small]Edited by simian[/small]

I loved the asthetic, but I feel like there was a lot of wasted potential, here.

they should have given the money for the video to charity... what is the point of a video that no one wants to watch a second time?

I get it. But I doubt I would watch it twice.

He's quite cute though.

Did anyone else feel like this video wasn't edited for the song? For a fast paced and energetic song, the slow paced editing didn't do it justice. It basically looks like someone threw random video clips on top of the music bed.

delirium~ ... start cropping out those flyer images for the tours/shows section! Perhaps maybe the kid is a caricature of what a punk is today and the whole "civil war re-enactment" comment made by Brett? (flyers of old shows he was not at, kid stuffing bandana in pocket - which no one does today.. i.e. finding 'true north' i e finding one's identity or something) Possibly the one way i can see this as being effective commentary. I think the idea of watching a bad religion video of someone listening to a bad religion song is weird, unless that was intentional. It's like watching a movie of someone watching something on Netflix. In any event, the Hot Topic kids will love this. Edit: Upon reading Watcho!'s take on the video, yeah i can understand the simplicity of whats being said. Not bad for a low budget video. [small]Edited by frod79[/small]

[quote=Marty]Nick, didn't you make some video a few years back with some dude waking up, putting BR on, getting dressed and go out skating?[/quote]Yes, and that "dude" was me! I was thinking about that video the whole time I was watching the music video. It was pretty much the same principle.

It's not THAT bad. And I hate most BR videos... Aesthetically it's the best video they've put out. And I like the idea of a simple theme, but maybe the outcome could have been better. [small]Edited by Johan[/small]

are his shirt and earings crosses?

this is dreadful

for the budget its ok i guess. lets hope the guy will attract more female listeners... :D all in all it was pretty boring... not good marketingwise

wow I guess Justin Beiber is a big fan of 80's punk

I like that emo Justin Beiber was in it...

[quote=voloversio]Listen.. a guy sitting in his room listening to bad religion is true and something that happens and I can indeed relate. However...it is a personal experience and not something that belongs in a music video. The music video should be an extension of the song. not a reflection of its effects on people. Yikes. Yikes yikes yikes.[/quote]So true. That being said, I do not hate it. Just do not think it's appropriate.

Listen.. a guy sitting in his room listening to bad religion is true and something that happens and I can indeed relate. However...it is a personal experience and not something that belongs in a music video. The music video should be an extension of the song. not a reflection of its effects on people. Yikes. Yikes yikes yikes.

I always felt that, Bad Religion always gave me the idea that I do not need to dress like a punk, get tattoos and colored hair to be punk, simply be the way I want to be. And this boy like Justin Bieber seems anything, but not a fan of Bad Religion [small]Edited by Guns[/small]

Uh......

isnt br about not feeling like u need to have a punk aesthetic. dang it, they always miss an opportunity to have a profound visual match the depth of their songs

it's like an hors-d'oeuvre, and i like it!!! and yes! they should keep the same guy for the next video!!!

It looks like there could be another video starting when the guy gets out in the street. Don't know what song they could take, maybe Past is dead, or Detp. And it would be the 2nd part of that video. Like Green Day did with Broken Dreams and Holiday... But yeah, not great at all. It's been a while since there was a good video with the guys playing. Honest Goodbye don't count imo. Broken was not too bad, better than the cheesy one for Sorrow.

I get the message behind the video but ehh

[quote=Marty]Nick, didn't you make some video a few years back with some dude waking up, putting BR on, getting dressed and go out skating?[/quote]SAME OLD STORY3D

i'm waiting for the durp that's gonna say that you're so sad they cried. which one of you will it be?

i liked it

Nick, didn't you make some video a few years back with some dude waking up, putting BR on, getting dressed and go out skating?

[quote=n1ckb0n3z]That was fucking terrible![/quote]ITS BETTER THAN THE VID FOR ANESTHESIA AMIRITE?

That was fucking terrible!

That's the most awful video I've ever seen. A poseur kid sitting in his bedroom? This song is epic and deserves a much better video! Maybe I'll make a fan edit... WTF. I can't believe someone was paid for this. It's not even cut to the beat of the song. How did this shit get approved? [small]Edited by SlickGonzalez[/small]

what the hell was that? Did I really just sit through 2 minutes of some kid bobbing his head to True North and then leave a room?

dear god.

I really didn't like that video, it is very boring, too bad, because it is a great song. I hoped the guy would go out walking the streets, going to the Bad Religion show, anything ... hope they launch a better video for some other song, an excellent album and successful as this, deserved a better video [small]Edited by Guns[/small]

........Unacceptable. [small]Edited by PreDispositionReport[/small]

i was waiting the whole fucking video for the guy to get out of the room.. there was potential..i liked the room and the charackter..but 15 sec in his room were enough... he just should have walked around.....or maybe run...something like that.. sad it didnt happen.. :(

[quote=_PJ_]Makes the video for "A Walk" look like the video for "Bohemian Rhapsody"[/quote] hahaha, best comment ever :D

ahhhh... you kids today. so rebellious.

Makes the video for "A Walk" look like the video for "Bohemian Rhapsody"

They should've got me to do it.

It actually looks more like a commercial for the album and BR merch than a videoclip for the song. Not cool.

Kinda reminded me the Bastards of Young video, but the Replacements' one is a lot better.

It's embedded by means of some crappy Rolling Stone player. When it pops up on youtube we'll embed that one.

What kind of crap is this shit?? I was expecting a bit more for a video of the new album.. maybe the band playing in the background or any other kind of shit... but this? just only a stupid teenage punk boy in his bedroom? I could have filmed a better video than this one with only a webcam at home... FAIL!

Oh, ya. Something that makes you feel old. Haven't "looked" like a punker in almost 15 years. (Here comes the obligatory "back in my day" comment). But punk kids have iPhones now, huh? Makes sense, but something I hadn't considered. Back in my day....if I would have had an iPhone, I might have been called a poseur or a spoiled rich kid. Truly interesting how times have changed.

That was kind of the worst video. Ever. Lol. Kept waiting for something to happen, only it didn't. Oh well, at least I got to hear the song.

So..where is it?

God that was truly horrific. Why? Just why? Could they not be bothered to do anything themselves for it?

I haven't watched it yet, but I'd like to say I agree with everything the last guy said.

Well, at least it probably didn't cost much to make. And that's all I have to say about that.

That was the worst thing I've ever seen. Who was that angsty shit, and why are they affiliating him with BR? A simple video of the band playing would suffice, Brett, or whichever record company stiff commissioned this atrocity. Also, is that a sticker of Obama the drone bomber at the end? Hopefully not, I don't think I have the capacity to hate it any more than I already do.