Um hey guys, there is a hidden track, its not hidden though ...Its just the first track, which is filler.
ps: I bought the album fior 65 cents!1 it came with the artwork even! Everyone buy it

Yeah, I've got it as well. Roger Vulture put it together in case you were interested. I sent him a twenty through the mail and he mailed me the CD. Thanks again Roger!

TOLSTOY! i have the RT CD also. it's really great. it's nice to find someone who have it like me

Speaking of rarities and hard to find stuff (in the last post from mark.) has anybody heard All Rare Tracks (ART)? It was put together by some people from Spain and sold through the old version of theBRpage 6 or 7 or 8 years ago. They only made 100 copies, but I'm sure countless bootlegs have been made by now. It's awesome. Countless live tracks, Into The Unknown, the christmas songs, demos of lots of songs of Brett or Greg just singing along with a piano (almost like a precursor to American Lesion), and tons of cover art, old club posters, and lyrics to everything. It's amazing. Coolest CD ever.

think about it... how cool would a 25 years box set be?! :^:

maybe it will go on a possible "25 year anniversary" box set to be released next year which will hopefully contain rarities and other hard to find bad religion related stuff aswell as a history cd?... i dunno, i am just dreaming i guess haha

the official message board is full of crap,
not to mention what morons are on it

hmmm... have you ever visited the official BRMB? dig through the threads and then tell me there's a hidden track...

yeah Brain said that they were finished recording 13 songs,
but they will have made more songs for the album for sure,
but they just didnt made the record,
maybe those get on special editions,
or certain part of the globe, b-sides?

Hey! The news just said that there MIGHT be a hidden song, not that there is a hidden song!
Isn't it better that all kinds of news are posted here? I don't see the anger that are coming out of some people, if you don't think there is a hidden song, reason it out, don't just type "there's no hidden song, you fuckers".
I myself don't think there is one, but Jay's text can be interpreted that way. I guess none of us will know until the album release.

Doesn't anybody remember when Brian Baker said they only finished recording 13 songs? Case closed, there is no hidden track. (also, I know technically there are 14 tracks, but I think Overture was just meant to be an intro to Sinister Rouge, if you listen closely they have the same melody, but ultimately it just sounded better as an album intro)

So if a "hidden" track is one that doesn't have a number I guess Overture is a "seen" track, because it's not a song - it's an intro.
I just felt like saying something stupid, don't mind me.

Well in the past there have been omitted tracks which are released in the album's version for other countries and will probably be available only on imports. That might be the case here, that doesn't make it a hidden track.

I would say there isn't a hidden track, but I can understand how the idea could come up; The Empire Strikes First has an uneven number of songs if 'Overture' is omitted.

oh man..jay is only kidding, can't you see it?
you should just ask first to the BRMB tank fish before posting these kind of news, HAHA!

Ya, that's what I thought Eevill.

Surface of Me

A hidden track is a song that is on the album but does not appear in the tracklist (ex: the song at the end of Full Circle by Pennywise, Cashing In at the end of Out Of Step by Minor Threat), and a b-side is the song on the flip side of a 7" single, or a song included with a CD single that has not been heard before.

Just because they haven't done it before doesn't stop it from being true. They've never had a musical intro track before but they have on the album.

Jay: did you try www.thereisnohiddentrack.duh?
HAHAHAHAAA! Oh man I love that guy...
I think Jay is just trying to fuck around with us; I'm sure there are no hidden tracks on the cd itself, but there'll probably be some B-sides that they'll release later on.

Ne pas le hidden track, people.. b-sides and unreleased tracks may be another issue entirely.

I'm sorry, is a hidden track the same as a b-side? I always thought they were separate things. A hidden track actually appearing on the album, and a b-side issued later. Am I wrong? I don't know.
I love all of their b-sides too, they include some of my favorite BR songs.

They haven't put hidden tracks on there cds yet so y would they start now. And i think we can safely say that http://www.thereisnohiddentrack.duh
makes that pretty clear.

This equates to:
There is no hidden track. Period. End of story.

Well, Jay could have easily been trying to keep a cap on it. I really hope there's a hidden track, because BR's B-sides are always my favorites (The Dodo, The Fast Life, Who We Are...)

It seems pretty obvious to me from that text that there is no hidden song. They've never done that before and I don't see why they'd start now.
Stealth doesn't count jackasses!

I hope there;s a hidden track... :)
and I like jays answer :P
eheheh

Man, there must be a hidden track. I mean, this "someone" seems to have much more creditibility than Jay. Jay's just a fucking member of the band. He won't know about this hidden song. He probably just forgot that he played it.