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Brett: "I think indie labels generally speaking are way cooler than majors. There's no question about it. On the other hand, almost every indie label is not a non-profit endeavor (?I if the indie label becomes successful and the cool music they're putting out gets popular, then I think inevitably they'll become very similar to a major. You look at Virgin Records, started out as a small indie, and I dunno how many years later sold for 750 million dollars and became part of EMI. Before that time that it did sell, it really was still an indie. It begs the question, what is an indie? If the next NOFX record went multi-platinum, like Nirvana Nevermind even if I didn't really change anything at Epitaph, wouldn't we be analogous to a major label and all the bad things they represent? And if so why, and what is the essence of what makes a major label bad? If it's the fact that major labels put out crappy music, it wouldn't be a fair assessment to say that Epitaph is any different than it ever was, but if the criteria for judging a label is that it can't sell a lot of records, then yeah, y'know what I mean? I think about it a lot".