Ziskrout and Graffin met while attending highschool at El Camino Rel High School in Woodland Hills, CA. Mutual friend Tom Clement introcuded the duo to Gurewitz and Bentley. While the band was recording How Could Hell... (over the course of four or five nights, working from midnight to 9 or 10 in the morning) he quit, without warning. According to Graffin, it was for some really stupid reason, "you guys don't listen to me enough, fuck you, I quit". He walked out of the studio, left his drums and everything while they were halfway finished with the album.