[quote=Bad Brett][quote=Viktor][quote=Bad Brett] [/quote] If you listen Bad Religion in order to hear great guitar riffs, unique guitar phrases, you have choosen the wrong band, Bad Religion is about melody and lyrics in first place. Just notice how many songs on this album instrumentaly especialy guitar wise are similar and also similar to the rest of the BR songs[/quote]I've listened to this band since '93, so please don't tell me that I have chosen the wrong band. It's also quite insulting to BR, because I believe that their greatest songs, such as All Good Soldiers and Honest Goodbye, are quite unique in every single way. Yes, they have this tendency to add these "fast paced punk rock songs", because otherwise the fans would complain. But what's worse about The Island is that it is on purpose. I guess it's meant to be an easter egg, but I still think it's unnecessary. After listenting to it a bunch of times, some tracks clearly stand out: Dharma And The Bomb, Hello Cruel World and maybe My Head Is Full Of Ghost.[/quote]I've never said that all of their songs are instrumentally similar, but many or most of their songs and of course they have about 20 songs out of 260 which are instrumentally pretty unique and you mentioned few of them. And they write 'fast paced punk rock songs' not because their fans will complain, but because they like to write fast or fasterer songs because they like punk rock music.

I couldn't care less what "The Island " is "rated;" it's awesome, and I don't need it to be either popular or unpopular in order to think so.

The island is awesome! Everyone has their own opinion, personally I find songs like honest goodbye and hello cruel world, broken etc boring, brett pop songs, the melodic faster punk rock with more interesting lyrics is why I like BR, gregs songs I can connect with, bretts not so much. The new album is brilliant overall imo........

[quote=Viktor][quote=Bad Brett] [/quote] If you listen Bad Religion in order to hear great guitar riffs, unique guitar phrases, you have choosen the wrong band, Bad Religion is about melody and lyrics in first place. Just notice how many songs on this album instrumentaly especialy guitar wise are similar and also similar to the rest of the BR songs[/quote]I've listened to this band since '93, so please don't tell me that I have chosen the wrong band. It's also quite insulting to BR, because I believe that their greatest songs, such as All Good Soldiers and Honest Goodbye, are quite unique in every single way. Yes, they have this tendency to add these "fast paced punk rock songs", because otherwise the fans would complain. But what's worse about The Island is that it is on purpose. I guess it's meant to be an easter egg, but I still think it's unnecessary. After listenting to it a bunch of times, some tracks clearly stand out: Dharma And The Bomb, Hello Cruel World and maybe My Head Is Full Of Ghost.

Danny holloway! You are right on. Recipie for Hate will always be my favorite. Best songwriting on that album. I wish they would remaster it. You may find this new album better than Process for the same reason. Then of course there is Suffer. So yeah my top 3 are the same.

What an album! Seriously lol can't wait for the post to arrive tomoz, the masterpiece which is TRUE NORTH will arrive, the neighbours might not be as enthusiastic about it tho haha

Been holding off on where I place this record until at least 3 or 4 listens. Now that I'm there....I say it's their best effort in at least 10 years. I would say nearly 20, but Process of Belief is still in my top 3. My Top 3 BR records have always been: Recipe For Hate Process of Belief Suffer I just can't slide down Process or Suffer. It very well may be in my top 5....but I'm still not sure. The fact that I'm even thinking about it though....is kind of all that needs to be said. This is their best effort in a very long time. I'll just put it that way.

[quote=Bad Brett] The Island is seriously overrated. It's not a good thing that it sounds so much like "When?". I already have Suffer. [/quote] It does not sound so much like When? just a little. The melody kicks ass. If you listen Bad Religion in order to hear great guitar riffs, unique guitar phrases, you have choosen the wrong band, Bad Religion is about melody and lyrics in first place. Just notice how many songs on this album instrumentaly especialy guitar wise are similar and also similar to the rest of the BR songs

was stoked to see the mail man today

My favourites, in no particular order: True North, Robin Hood In Reverse, Dharma And The Bomb, Hello Cruel World, In Their Hearts Is Right, Popular Consensus. The Island is seriously overrated. It's not a good thing that it sounds so much like "When?". I already have Suffer.

Killer record! Best one since, oh, Generator or maybe STF imo. Favorite tracks after a couple of listens .. Crisis Time, Vanity, Nothing To Dismay, Changing Tide, Hello Cruel World. Looks like my vinyl just shipped too, yay!

Just listened to them. Pretty damn good but quite a few unnecessary tracks for me. Nothing as had as four of the last five on The Dissent of Man, though. My favorites through one listen in are True North, Past is Dead, In Their Hearts is Right, Nothing to Dismay, My Head is Full of Ghosts, and perhaps the best song on the album, The Island. Album sounds like a mix between STF, TGR, TNA, and TPOB.

Great album, really enjoying it, best they've put out since the 90's imo, if this is their last album it would be a great one to sign off with, brilliant!

Okay so listening through a few times. I seriously think this album is pretty amazing and it has something for everyone. Most of the album is very up beat which is great for Bad Religion fans and they threw a couple curve balls in the mix as well. Some of the cool effects they used on 'My Head is Full of Ghosts' were really cool. And please can I get an Amen on how catchy the chorus is in both 'In Their Hearts is Right' and 'Nothing to Dismay'. OMFG!!!!!!!! those chorus are catchy and I cannot wait to see them live!!!!

[quote=n1ckb0n3z][quote=Viktor]That riff in Crisis Time has Iron Maiden/Fear of the dark feel.Great song though[/quote]BadReligionFTW would be extremely happy to hear this ;p [url]http://www.thebrpage.net/news/?newsID=1842[/url][/quote]Haha, really good memory

[quote=Viktor]That riff in Crisis Time has Iron Maiden/Fear of the dark feel.Great song though[/quote]BadReligionFTW would be extremely happy to hear this ;p [url]http://www.thebrpage.net/news/?newsID=1842[/url]

That riff in Crisis Time has Iron Maiden/Fear of the dark feel.Great song though

I can't believe my ears. This album is amazing!!!!!!!! I really enjoy Brett's song, tho I don't love his voice that much. The song is good enough for me to not care about the voice though. Those guitars!!!!!!!!!

What the fuck did he say?

Correction, found changing tide, nice song.

Overall Im liking this album, so much better than TDOM, only thing that spoils it for me again are the obvious poppy brett songs, dharma and the bomb, hello cruel word.....repetative simple boring imo just cant connect with them, the repetative chorus of 'in their hearts is right I find irritating atm too, will be skipping those for sure. Most of the album tho I'm digging, loving songs like true north, past is dead, land of endless greed, dept of false hope, head full of ghosts etc, Have they held 'changing tide' back? I haven't come across it yet. NMoh was great but this might be my favourite since TGR :) [small]Edited by modern man[/small]

[quote=Marty][quote=SOLDSHORT]What happened to all evidence of Robin Hodo?[/quote]He came and went.[/quote]In reverse?

[quote=SOLDSHORT]What happened to all evidence of Robin Hodo?[/quote]He came and went.

What happened to all evidence of Robin Hodo?

No prob.

Thank you for this great album!!!

[quote=ComicSans][quote=empire_br23]PLEASE FORGIVE ME...I don't hear either.[/quote]Left channel starting at 0:37. And the higher note is in the same spot in the mix, starting at 3:11, but most easily heard at 3:25[/quote]Thanks, listening to the track in my car a few times and I can clearly hear it now.

I just finished listening to the album and yes I'm going to "borrow" the songs until my bundle package arrives next week. but thank you bad religion for making another great album!! I love how the songs are fast and short.. alot of energy that I felt was missing from the last album (still good on its own tho) the wait for this album was worth it. I really really REALLY love the song true north.

[quote=jbonvillern]Just finished listening to all the tracks and I can say they have KNOCKED IT OUT OF THE PARK! Best in 10 years--since Process..Super stoked.[/quote]I'd go further and say it's their best since STF, side by side Gray Race. Maybe better.

A huge step up in consistency over The Dissent of Man.

better than the last two albums by far, nice energy and overall sound.

[quote=jbonvillern]"Dharma and the Bomb" feels like a single.[/quote]Moar so than Dept. of False Hope? I don't think they'd choose a song that doesn't feature Greg as main singer for a single... but who knows...

"Dharma and the Bomb" feels like a single.

my head is full of ghosts. hell yeah.

Just finished listening to all the tracks and I can say they have KNOCKED IT OUT OF THE PARK! Best in 10 years--since Process..Super stoked.

MOAR

Robin Hood In Reverse!!!!! SO GOOD.

Amazing songs! Can't wait 'till I can get my hands on the actual vinyl on januari 22nd!

It sounds like piano through the headphones.

hello cruel world and popular consensus....wow

this album is fucking amazing!

[quote=Cajunjoe]At this point they should just give us our digital downloads...[/quote]That would make sense.

Just want to weigh in and say I LOVE TRUE NORTH.

At this point they should just give us our digital downloads...

[quote=Jesse]The Japanese release is the same as the US and European releases and doesn't have an extra track as far as I know.[/quote]Brett said no b-sides

i can't even describe how joyful i am

[quote=Jesse][quote=Viezefur1984]I hope they'll play at the 013 venue or the Milky Way, although the first venue is better. I'll attend the Groezrock festival anayways, but I'd prefer an intimate gig in the Netherlands at a small venue, as they have a lot of fans in the Netherlands as I can recall, me including. Haven't you heard any rumours Jesse if there'll even be a gig in the Netherlands?[/quote]No rumors so far, but I can't imagine they'll skip the Netherlands. Marty and I will also be at Groezrock, and I'm still hoping for a show in Cologne (love that city).[/quote]Thanks for the quick reply. I am little anxious they will be playing at Pinkpop or Lowlands, which are festivals, instead of the aforementioned small venues. Cologne will also suffice IMHO, but I still prefer the 013

[b]Holy crap!!!! that's perfect!! much more than i expected!!!![/b] The Island is 100% Suffer style Yeahhhhhhhhh!!!!!!! The final Watch out+oozing aaaah on the Island shocked me!!! wooooooowowowow!!! Biiiiig Brett on Dharma!!!!! Hello Cruell World is impresive!!! All songs are classic style, fast, original melodies, oozing aaahs!!!! Watch outs!!! is perfect!!!. Fuck!!!! can't stop listening!!!!! is addictive!!! I'm a fan since early 90's when i was a teenager and bought Suffer & No Control. I have the same feeling 20 years after!!! yeahhhh. No bad religion song can make your life complete (but maybe a whole album...)

[quote=Viezefur1984]I hope they'll play at the 013 venue or the Milky Way, although the first venue is better. I'll attend the Groezrock festival anayways, but I'd prefer an intimate gig in the Netherlands at a small venue, as they have a lot of fans in the Netherlands as I can recall, me including. Haven't you heard any rumours Jesse if there'll even be a gig in the Netherlands?[/quote]No rumors so far, but I can't imagine they'll skip the Netherlands. Marty and I will also be at Groezrock, and I'm still hoping for a show in Cologne (love that city).

[quote=Jesse][quote=MrPartThree]Jesse, when is the next BR show in Holland? I'll be up front as usual.[/quote]Still unknown. But if there's one I'll be on the balcony (as usual). :)[/quote]I hope they'll play at the 013 venue or the Milky Way, although the first venue is better. I'll attend the Groezrock festival anayways, but I'd prefer an intimate gig in the Netherlands at a small venue, as they have a lot of fans in the Netherlands as I can recall, me including. Haven't you heard any rumours Jesse if there'll even be a gig in the Netherlands?

[quote=MrPartThree]Jesse, when is the next BR show in Holland? I'll be up front as usual.[/quote]Still unknown. But if there's one I'll be on the balcony (as usual). :)

Mother of Goddamned things I like, there are some pearls on this album. Infinite repeat. It makes it all up for the disappoint The Dissent of Man was for me. I am smiling from ear to ear here, same excitement I had for new albums 10 years ago. Jesse, when is the next BR show in Holland? I'll be up front as usual.

This is so wonderful. It even makes me forget my concussion - I'm very clumsy... I can't wait to play this for my son when he gets home from school!

I can't wait to get the cd and just blast it in the car!!

Where is the cowbell???

[quote=dv802]does anyone know if they're doing a European or Japenese release with a b-side? They usually do that so am just curious havent heard anything.[/quote]The Japanese release is the same as the US and European releases and doesn't have an extra track as far as I know.

[quote=dv802]does anyone know if they're doing a European or Japenese release with a b-side? They usually do that so am just curious havent heard anything.[/quote]The Japanese edition is going to feature Dharma and the Bomb sung by Greg and othe other 15 songs sung by Brett. /SOLDSHORT mode off

does anyone know if they're doing a European or Japenese release with a b-side? They usually do that so am just curious havent heard anything.

-WHATTA??!!... First no leaks to be heard of....and then, suddenly, Epitaph puts it all out on the table! Surely gotta raise my hat for those guys! THANKS! ([i]of course[/i] I'll be buying their album, several of them, as we all know)....

Holy shit! Great music. Now lets see how long this will be visible in Germany, before before the GEMA locks it. :D

awesome album! thank you Bad Religion! It all sounds really clear 10x better than NMOH. great guitar solos. the backing vocals are awesome. Greg's singing is great as usual and the dharma and the bomb song is really good. Brett's voice is really good for these kind of rock songs.

Will rock the Montreal one!

oh shit! Bad Religion - 2013 Tour Dates (more TBA) 3/8 Musink Tattoo & Music Festival 3/13 House of Blues Houston, TX* 3/16 The Ritz Ybor Tampa, FL* 3/17 House of Blues Orlando, FL* 3/19 Masquerade Atlanta, GA* 3/24 The Electric Factory Philadelphia, PA* 3/26 Terminal 5 New York, NY* 3/28 House of Blues Boston, MA* 3/29 State Theatre Portland, ME* 3/30 Metropolis Montreal, QC 3/31 Kool Haus Toronto, ON* 4/2 Saint Andrews Hall Detroit, MI* 4/4 Newport Music Hall Columbus, OH* 4/5 Congress Theater Chicago, IL* 4/8 Granada Lawrence, KS* 4/10 Fillmore Auditorium Denver, CO* 4/18 Palladium Los Angeles, CA * - w/ Against Me!, Polar Bear Club

[quote=Jesse][quote=Viezefur1984]Latter post was my first on thebrpage as I have just registered. I have been visiting thebrpage for many years now though, only as an unregistered guest. I would like to know from the admin if posting a download-link is permitted.[/quote]Sorry, but we don't allow links to full-length albums.[/quote]Alright, thanks for mentioning. In that case I won't post the download-link on the internet at all. I was willing to make the album only available for the most dedicated fans of BR, who are gathered on this website. The new album is defintely great and feels fresh. I hope it's not their last. Been a fan fan from the early 90's and grew up with BR. Can't wait to buy the abum on 22nd.

This is wonderful!!! It reminds me of the golden era (suffer, no control, against the grain) but still sounds refreshing and new. Definetely a lot better than the previous one.

I am a happy boy.

[quote=Viezefur1984]Latter post was my first on thebrpage as I have just registered. I have been visiting thebrpage for many years now though, only as an unregistered guest. I would like to know from the admin if posting a download-link is permitted.[/quote]Sorry, but we don't allow links to full-length albums.

[quote=empire_br23]PLEASE FORGIVE ME...I don't hear either.[/quote]Left channel starting at 0:37. And the higher note is in the same spot in the mix, starting at 3:11, but most easily heard at 3:25

Loving it, finally good sounding drums, without too much fills or a metal edge.

Latter post was my first on thebrpage as I have just registered. I have been visiting thebrpage for many years now though, only as an unregistered guest. I would like to know from the admin if posting a download-link is permitted.

Would be closer to the schlitz bottle than the cowbell... but it's a piano

ill think about it

PLEASE FORGIVE ME...I don't hear either.

It's either a cowbell or an empty Schlitz bottle.

I've created a zip-file on zippy share containing the full album 'True North' I am willing to post the download-link for this album as soon as I know it is permitted to post the link on this website. P.S. You should still buy their album

I hope Brian doesn't read this...

if its not a cowbell then it....NEEDS MORE COWBELL

fight fight fight

No way that's a cowbell It doesnt sound like one, plus Brooks is already hitting the hi hat, so he couldnt hit the cowbell at the same time, unless they would've recorded it separately, but I'm sure they did not... [small]Edited by Groomits[/small]

Sorry, that's a cowbell.

Nothing to Dismay will become a concert classic

Definitely a high piano note. Nice addition

Dharma and the Bomb sounds a lot like something from Agent Orange too me. Definitely interesting to hear Brett sing (in a good way).

[quote=Jesse][quote=ComicSans] Piano in Hello Cruel World,[/quote]Isn't that actually a cowbell??? It sounds too hollow for a piano...[/quote]Well I'm certainly no expert. I hear one note (half speed) throughout the song, and a second higher note (double time) through the last chorus. Both sound like a piano to me...

[quote=ComicSans] Piano in Hello Cruel World,[/quote]Isn't that actually a cowbell??? It sounds too hollow for a piano...

LOLZ Neil Davis Morpheus came to me and he played this song. He paused, then asked, "what if I told you this is Bad Religion?" The wave function of my false reality collapsed and I awoke with Brett Gurewitz, Josh Freese and Gore Verbinski standing over me. "You've been living in a dream, Neil." P.S. (to Brett) so this is what you were nervous about?It's all good. There's nothing more bad religion than doing something radically different every other album. BTW, stop reading the comments to this song aleady!

Listening right now, man am I surprised. Like ComicSans said, I can't put my finger on it, but it sounds refreshing somehow. It reminds me a bit of when I heard TESF for the first time. Don't know why really.

Ive made it this far....the gameplan was to wait til i get my preorder and do 80 on the 210 at night listening to this for the first time....lets see how long i make it :(

who wha whe

listening to this the third time now. it was great at first & it still grows. what a furious addition to the catalogue.

Great album , has that sound that we all know and love .

Meh

good morning really good morning

ARGH. I can hold out...I can hold out...I can hold out....*begins to sweat*

very encouraging so far

Ahhh, I wish my preorder would get here now because this is wonderful.

wow.

in total another great album from the best band ever created. can't wait to spin the vinyl version on my tt.

So far so good , I was on the fence about an all Brett song *vocally* but so far I enjoy this album .

[quote=paulb]The Island may be my favorite song. Excellent track![/quote] When part two :) Great song

The Island may be my favorite song. Excellent track!

I can't wait to get home and give this a listen! I am torn between waiting to buy the disc and listen though. All the comments are making me want to just get stuck in and do it today

Robin Hodo?

In Their Hearts is Right!!!!!!!!

[quote=Anti-]There's a leak in my pants!![/quote]There's a leeeeeak in your pants today... and there's nothing you can do...!

very good album!!! ROCK ON!!

[quote=dv802]This is the best Bad Religion album ever! It sounds like a nice blend of Recipe and stranger than fiction? Anyone agree or am I off?[/quote]I might not go quite that far, but I'd be hard pressed to name any of their albums as best. I will say, musically/production wise, it feels (to me) like this is the way BR was always supposed to sound.

this is a great album! crisis time, popular consensus and chaging tides are really good songs

There's a leak in my pants!!

This is the best Bad Religion album ever! It sounds like a nice blend of Recipe and stranger than fiction? Anyone agree or am I off?

Fuck yes!

I'm finding this really refreshing. I can't quite put my finger on why. But I am really digging it. Piano in Hello Cruel World, Jay's bass, the mix. Something in the formula is really resonating with me. Nothing against TDoM, I think it stands for itself (and is what it is), and I wouldn't call True North a return to form, but on first listen, it really comes across as an inspired, energetic effort. Looking forward to digesting this one.

the greatest band ever created [small]Edited by Markovian[/small]

Love it!

I promised myself I would wait for the LP to arrive.. I guess one more song can't hurt.. Or two..

WHA??